words@brothersgibb.com message digest 10/05/2014 15:01 (#2014-294)

5 messages included in this issue
1Thoughts on Robin Gibb's "50 St. Catherine's Drive" and some of RJ Gibb's astonishing revelationskarimkassai@yahoo.it
2Technicolor Dreamskarimkassai@yahoo.it
3Rif: Rif: Robin's solo albumcompoccia@aol.com
4Rif: Thoughts on Robin Gibb's "50 St. Catherine's Drive" and some of RJ Gibb's astonishing revelationscompoccia@aol.com
5Rif: Rif: Robin's solo albumanngrootjans@me.com
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 15:52:34 +0200 (ora legale Europa occidentale) From: "karimkassai@yahoo.it" <karimkassai@yahoo.it> Subject: Rif: Thoughts on Robin Gibb's "50 St. Catherine's Drive" and some of RJ Gibb's astonishing revelations It's his thoughts , saying that Barry was good and working at the crowds and had a great voice for the later dance tracks , is an opinion , i totally disagree , Barry was much much more but i don't want to offend noone , this is RJìs idea , so it's ok.Wonder what David Foster , Streisand , D.Ross , K Rogers , S.Sang , ONJ , Elton John , George Michael , Michael Bublè , MJ , Paul McCartney , Arif Mardin , Celine Dion , and.....think about this statement. I think Barry , hearing RJ's statement , would not be so happy!!! Karim Back to top
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 15:56:35 +0200 (ora legale Europa occidentale) From: "karimkassai@yahoo.it" <karimkassai@yahoo.it> Subject: Rif: Technicolor Dreams Tom , this is your opinion , on the CD's booklet i read that the backing vocals are sang by Robin and Maurice , that is what counts, And if , in the close to final version , " Technicolor dreams " had no backing vocals , well maybe Barry didn't like it without his brothers and asked him to be in the final version. Who knows! karim Back to top
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 10:38:41 -0400 From: Salvatore Compoccia <compoccia@aol.com> Subject: Re: Rif: Rif: Robin's solo album Karim wrote: Sal , all the points can be seen on both sides , so , if you see it that way , that's ok , i think you are minimizing too much every Barry's intention in "TIWICI", and , on the other hand , you don't give enough attention on what happened with the "TIWICI" album and what Robin did with the songs he wrote. I don't=20think it is a matter of giving it proper attention. I'm merely pointing out that Robin, as well as B&M, decided to go off on their own and record solo tracks for TIWICI. Why=20this was done or whose idea it was remains unclear, but the speculati As said in an earlier post, Robin recorded the backing vocals of his solo tracks with co-producer Peter Vettese largely because the tracks were recorded in England and presumably B&M were not present. Barry did his songs in Miami so getting Maurice to pl As for Maurice, he recorded his two solo tracks by himself. He said he asked Barry to help him with the lyrics for "Man In The Middle" because of the importance he placed on the song and wanted the lyrics to be strong (Maurice maintained that he was not " Sal compoccia@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: karimkassai To: words List Member Sent:=20Sat, Oct 4, 2014 5:45 pm Subject: [words] Rif: Rif: Robin's solo album Sal , all the points can be seen on both sides , so , if you see it that way , that's ok , i think you are minimizing too much every Barry's intention in "TIWICI", and , on the other hand , you don't give enough attention on what happened with the "TIWICI" album and what Robin did with the songs he wrote. "=20Embrace " was one , but on the extra track " Promise the earth " there are backing vocals , but the vocals are Peter John Vettesse and Sal i'm sorry but this is something that i can't stand , i can't accept that the backing vocals are not done by the brothers in a Bee Gees album , i just can't stand it , no way . So , many things can be seen in many different ways but this no , this is a fact! Karim -------Messaggio originale------- Da: words@brothersgibb.com Data: 04/10/2014 22:16:27=0AA: words List Member Oggetto: [words] Rif: Robin's solo album Karim (trying real hard to be objective) wrote: =0A>Kitty i never said that Barry should NOT promote Robin's album.He is certainly not forced but if he says >something i=20think it would be nice.As for the fact that the brothers didn't work together , well , someone around >Robin says he wanted but Bar You're with Barry on=20this one, but I'm not. The evidence, whether circumstantial or not, overwhelmingly pointed to Robin wanting to continue to=20work with Barry and not be a solo artist. There is no other credible inference to be made. I thought Barry' As for Barry? At best he was20ambivalent about teaming up with Robin again. In the end, I just don't think his heart was in it and sadly, he kept Robin twisting in the wind for all that time. >Who told them? From where they get these info.? Why Robin never said such a thing? Even in Robin's album , >Dwina , talking about the songs never said that Barry didn't want to work with Rob! You seem to be suggesting that it is only Barry's=20position that means anything. Are you saying that a third party's information doesn't mean anything? That we can't glean some truth from their information or insights? Especially if it's a well placed th =0A >But i want to give you this point of view , yes , it was Barry , that as always , so selfish , didn't want to work >with his brother , why others that are so nice and gentle , didn't ask him to do something on his album.I want >to remember everyone that >Thanks for answering and keeping our love for their music alive. >Karim Barry had R&M add some background vocals on "Technical Dreams" because it was a candidate for the title of the album and "Voice In The Wilderness" because that was the last track on the album ( Turns out the last track period) and Barry wanted them on it. Sal Salvatore Compoccia compoccia@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: karimkassai To: words List Member Sent: Sat, Oct 4, 2014 11:30 am Subject: [words] Rif: Robin's solo album Kitty i never said that Barry should NOT promote Robin's album.He is certainly not forced but if he says something i think it would be nice.As for the fact that the brothers didn't work together , well , someone around Robin says he wanted but Barry didn' Thanks for answering and keeping our love for their music alive. Karim -------Messaggio originale------- =20 Da: kittyLarue Data: 04/10/2014 00:35:24 A: words List Member Oggetto: [words] Robin's solo album I want to be sure I'm understanding you correctly. RJ and/or Dwina should have asked Barry to add some vocals on one song so to have a virtual duet between the brothers. I'm really trying to follow you here. Virtual duet! I'll repeat, VIRTUAL DUET. Surely Didn't you recently agree with someone that said Barry should NOT promote Robin's album? Now you think Barry should be doing the "Natalie/Nat" sing-along??? =0A I pledge to stick to the name-brand drugs, surely I'm=20missing something. Thanks for the laughter. Kitt (frantically scrambling through my medicine cabinet) On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 5:05 PM, karimkassai@yahoo.it wrote: I've already said that i love Robin's album , it would have been nice if RJ and/or Dwina asked Barry to add some vocals on one song so to have a virtual duet between the brothers. It's just a dream but it would have been very nice. Karim =0A Animazioni GRATIS per la tua e-mail! =0A Fai clic qui! =0A =0A -- Kitt- =0A Emoticons GRATIS per la tua email con IncrediMail! =0A Fai clic qui! =0A =0A Back to top
Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2014 10:51:59 -0400 From: Salvatore Compoccia <compoccia@aol.com> Subject: Re: Rif: Thoughts on Robin Gibb's "50 St. Catherine's Drive" and some of RJ Gibb's astonishing revelations Karim wrote: >It's his thoughts , saying that Barry was good and working at the crowds and had a great voice for the later >dance tracks , is an opinion , i totally disagree , Barry was much much more but i don't want to offend=20noone , >this is RJìs idea , so it's >Karim Or maybe Barry would just give a little dismissive chuckle and take RJ's comments for what they are worth. Which isn't much. Then again, Barry seemed to get riled at Robin for much less ( and Robin would never say something like that!). But, that was Robin. His brother and band mate and when all is said and done, his most important songwriting/creative partner. Robin mattered t Sal Salvatore Compoccia compoccia@aol.com =0A -----Original Message----- From: karimkassai To: words List Member Sent: Sun, Oct 5, 2014 9:53 am Subject: [words] Rif: Thoughts on Robin Gibb's "50 St. Catherine's Drive" and some of RJ Gibb's astonishing revelations It's his thoughts , saying that Barry was good and working at the crowds and had a great voice for the later dance tracks , is an opinion , i=20totally disagree , Barry was much much more but i don't want to offend noone , this is RJìs idea , so it's ok. Karim =0A -------Messaggio originale------- Da: words@brothersgibb.com Data: 05/10/2014 01:05:45 A: words List Member Oggetto: [words] Thoughts on Robin Gibb's "50 St. Catherine's Drive" and some of RJ Gibb's astonishing revelations =0A>With regard to the interaction or the roles of the three=20talented brothers that were the Bee Gees, RJ had this >quite orthodox but interesting analysis: >"I think Barry had the=20image as the ladies’ man and I think my father had the boyish, angelic vocals and >Maurice was the tech man, very good with music." RJ also added that Maurice as the musical mastermind of the group and that Barry was good at working the crowd and had a great voice for the later dance tracks. How well do you think statements like this go down with Barry if he would come across it? Sal =0ASalvatore Compoccia compoccia@aol.com -----Original Message----- From: Chris Mathis To: words List Member Sent: Tue, Sep 30, 2014 12:25=20pm Subject: [words] Thoughts on Robin Gibb's "50 St. Catherine's Drive" and some of RJ Gibb's astonishing revelations =0A Saw this posted on beegeedays.com full article here: http://beegeedays.com/en/news-en/740-huffington.html Thoughts on Robin Gibb's "50 St. Catherine's Drive" and some of RJ Gibb's astonishing revelations 2014/09/30 (Tue) 08:53 BGD News (EN) =20"50 St. Catherine's Drive" Robin Gibb's solo album "50 St. Catherine's Drive" was released in the U.K. and in Europe on Monday 29th and in the States on Tuesday 30th. So RJ and Dwina Gibb had a media day on Monday and gave interviews with the UK Daily Express and the Manchester Eve One of the most prominent interviews is the one RJ gave to Huffington Post titled "From Los Angeles to 50 St.Catherine's Drive: Chat with RJ Gibb" which is also posted on the News section of RobinGibb.com as "Conversation with RJ Gibb," where he made some About the solo album, RJ said: "Pete Vettese and him (Robin Gibb) started the production back in 2008 and then I started a couple of years ago and we just finished last year. Number 50, Saint Catherine=99s Drive in the Isle of Mann (sic) was the first house my father lived in. It was About his collaboration with Robin on Titanic Requiem: "my father had always adored classical music, we both loved Mozart and Schubert, so we teamed up with the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra. We decided=20to do a requiem because it was the hundredth anniversary of the sinking of the Titanic and we decided to d About the confusing timeline of Robin Gibb's illness where widow Dwina Gibb once put the blame on an earthquake that had not happened yet, now it's RJ who made another surprising revelation. (Dwina once said in an interview that Robin's treatment was fata "It=20(Titanic Requiem) debuted at Westminster Hall, sadly he never=20made the opening as he’d fallen into a coma and this was after going into remission about four times, so this=20was after a long, hard battle. As a realist, I knew what could happen a RJ maintained in an earlier statement (from July 2011 http://beegeedays.com/en/archives/595-rj.html ) that, due to Robin's refusal to be diagnosed, nobody, least of all Robin himself, knew he was afflicted with life-threatening illness until "it was too Now RJ also seems to echo Barry's earlier statement that Robin was doing his bucket list: "We accomplished a lot, after the requiem we wrote a lot of popular music together as well, those will be coming out at some point as well, he was making films as well in the garden, it was unbelievable. He’s made a few comedy sketches, he was always in So the chances are we may yet=20to expect, albeit fragmentary (?!), more music from Robin? During one of our recent phone conversations, Dwina Gibb also expressed a wish to "eventually put out those comedy sketches Robin made between chemo sessions." So, With=20regard to the interaction or the roles of the three talented brothers that were the Bee Gees, RJ had this quite orthodox but interesting analysis: "I think Barry had the image as the ladies’ man and I think my father had the boyish, angelic vocals and Maurice was the tech man, very good with music." About the tracks on the new solo album, he made another astonishing revelation: "“Days Of Wine & Roses,” where the song itself is actually a reverse. He played it backwards from a song, “Broken Wings.”=20He played that song backwards and he came up with “Days Of Wine & Roses,” which is another potential single for this a In her liner notes to "Broken Wings," Dwina Gibb reveals that: "At the very beginning of this song=20there are some experimental otherworldly sounds that could be=20Icelandic music or similar (Robin enjoyed watching Bjork sing). But it is actually a part of the song “Days Of Wine And Roses” played backwards." Now RJ says "Days of Wine and Roses" was inspired by "Broken Wings" played backwards. So the two songs are actually like two "mirrored images"? About "Instant Love": "But the third potential single is the song we wrote together, “Instant Love,” which is quite poignant because it’s the last time we actually sang together. It’s father and son together, sing a=20verse each and then duetting on the chorus." Another surprise. Which version is he referring to? We understoond the vocal parts of RJ for this album version were recorded earlier this year at Red Bus Recording Studios in London, but, according to RJ, he did it with Robin. So maybe this album version Asked about his own plans, RJ reveals that his own=20pop music album is in the works. Also, with his long-time interest in performing arts, he is going to make his debut as a mentalist/illusionist at Children In Need at Savoy Hotel this October. About the opening track of the album "Days of Wine and Roses," RJ offers this touching insight: "My dad did admire him (Oscar Wilde) for his wit as we were just saying, but I think when he found the phrase as an ode to his friend it kind of reminded him of Maurice and of others he’d lost. I think it was kind of poignant=20thing because it also tal Yes, the album echoes with feelings for the loved=20ones lost and laughter and tears of the days gone by. There is also a repeated wish that it's not too late yet. Now, some two years after Robin Gibb's passing, the world of=20people have the chance to l (Thanks: Robin Hurley, Dwina Gibb) "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) http://www.brothersgibb.com =0A To change any of your list options, please go to website listed above. Emoticons GRATIS per la tua email con IncrediMail! =0A Fai clic qui! =0A Back to top
Date: Sun, 05 Oct 2014 20:25:10 +0200 From: Ann Grootjans <anngrootjans@me.com> Subject: Re: Rif: Rif: Robin's solo album I don't know anymore who sings what backing vocals on what tracks on TIWICI, too long ago. But what I do know is that Robin only did what he was asked to do, go record 3-4 songs by himself -alone, without his brothers thus- to be included on the album. I I think I've pointed out before that Robin didn't want to have a solo career. He just wanted to work/kill time. Sitting at home doing nothing just wasn't an option for him, he had to keep going somehow, even if he didn't like doing it alone/without his br If Barry is in the belief that Robin wanted to be a solo artist, well so it be. He is entitled to have an opinion. I would hope though that Robin would have been entitled to have one too, and that was that he didn't envisage a musical solo career. A Back to top
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