Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 17:20:32 +0000 (UTC)
From: compoccia@aol.com
Subject: Re: Nights On Broadway
>One time... and I wish I could find the source... they said that the one who was singing the song during songwriting would be the one who sang it in the finished version, and that they chose the words and phrases specifically to suit >that voice. It was
I recently listened to an interview Barry did. I can't remember if it was a radio interview or on someone's podcast. But, I think it was when he was promoting the "Greenfields" album. During the interview, Barry says that whoever's idea it was for the son
I apologize for not having the link to the interview. I meant to save it and forward it to the list, but I forgot. Probably a result of not being as engaged here as I once was. I am sorry, though. I'll look for it or perhaps someone else could find it. It
>I did not know about Robin as main writer on "Tragedy" so thanks for that insight.Â
Insight or just a very shaky memory from when I was 13 years old. LOL.Â=A0
Yet I still think it's quite possible.
Sal
Back to topDate: Tue, 30 Aug 2022 17:25:24 +0000 (UTC)
From: compoccia@aol.com
Subject: Re: Barry Gibb’s Net Worth, Children, Wife
 >I finally listened to the podcast this week. (well almost finished) I never knew it existed until someone mentioned it a while back. It was very good.  https://shows.acast.com/wordsbeegeespodcast/episodes/joseph-brennan  >Interesting on how your webs
To my ears, a mixture of a New York/New Jersey accent. Lol.
Sal
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From: Yasmine Ghulamali <yasdaz17@fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: Nights On Broadway
I would not trust Barry's memory or interpretation of how Robin was
involved (or not) given how, imo, Barry has a habit of downplaying
Robin's contributions, especially as Robin is not here to provide a
different perspective. Yasmine
On 2022-08-30 10:20 a.m., compoccia via Words wrote:
>
> >One time... and I wish I could find the source... they said that
> the one who was singing the song during songwriting would be the
> one who sang it in the finished version, and that they chose the
> words and phrases specifically to suit >that voice. It was the
> same interview where they described writing the entire melody
> first, and then finding words to go with it. All of this goes well
> with the idea that in the late 70s Robin was active as a
> songwriter and involved in >crafting songs for Barry's commercial
> voice. I can believe that. (Back in Australia Barry wrote a few
> songs that Robin sang.)
>
> I recently listened to an interview Barry did. I can't remember if
> it was a radio interview or on someone's podcast. But, I think it
> was when he was promoting the "Greenfields" album. During the
> interview, Barry says that whoever's idea it was for the song
> would sing lead (something that he has said several times of
> late). Quickly adding that he sang lead on all those late 70's
> songs "on default". Clearly indicating that those songs were his
> ideas (at least that was the inference I took). Interestingly,
> Barry didn't stop there. He said (going on memory here and
> paraphrasing) after Stigwood and Ahmet Ertegun told Robin that
> they weren't interested in his "pathos" type-songs any longer,
> Robin withdrew. Barry may have even said that Robin sort of gave
> up. Now, with Barry these days, the context and the timeline tends
> to be hazy. Since Barry mentioned Ertegun, it would have been
> around 1974-75, I guess. But, was this just one album? The rest of
> the 70's? Moreover, it would contradict what Albhy imparted to Joe
> Brennan about Robin being clearly involved in the songwriting at
> that time.
>
> I apologize for not having the link to the interview. I meant to
> save it and forward it to the list, but I forgot. Probably a
> result of not being as engaged here as I once was. I am sorry,
> though. I'll look for it or perhaps someone else could find it. It
> may have been an interview Barry did with Tim Roxborough. But
> again, I'm not certain.
>
>
>
> >I did not know about Robin as main writer on "Tragedy" so thanks
> for that insight.
>
> Insight or just a very shaky memory from when I was 13 years old.
> LOL.
>
> Yet I still think it's quite possible.
>
> Sal
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Brennan
> To: Words List Member
> Sent: Fri, Aug 26, 2022 12:38 pm
> Subject: [Words] Nights On Broadway
>
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 7:20 PM compoccia via Words
> wrote:
>
>
>
> I've had two competing thoughts about that. The first one being
> what you argue above. The second one is that Barry was largely the
> main writer on those late 70's big hits and thus had a higher
> sense of propriety regarding those songs and that may explain why
> Barry was so irritated when Robin was performing those songs in
> his solo concerts after Mo died. (Unless, of course, Barry was
> just annoyed with the idea of Robin performing concerts,
> regardless of the material). Who knows?
>
>
>
> One time... and I wish I could find the source... they said that the
> one who was singing the song during songwriting would be the one who
> sang it in the finished version, and that they chose the words and
> phrases specifically to suit that voice. It was the same interview
> where they described writing the entire melody first, and then finding
> words to go with it. All of this goes well with the idea that in the
> late 70s Robin was active as a songwriter and involved in crafting
> songs for Barry's commercial voice. I can believe that. (Back in
> Australia Barry wrote a few songs that Robin sang.)
>
> I did not know about Robin as main writer on "Tragedy" so thanks for
> that insight. In my interviews with Albhy Galuten the Barry
> Worshipper, he did mention that when Robin stopped by the studio late
> in the day, he talked with them about the recording, and Robin was
> obviously very familiar with the song and spoke with Barry about
> details of how it should go, some good friendly critique that even
> Albhy admitted was useful. So he was sure Robin was involved with the
> songwriting, but they would not say anything to him about it.
>
> An illustration of the paper with the lyric to "Stayin' Alive"
> handwritten by Robin on an airplane was included in a book years ago,
> not a Bee Gees book but a picture book showing songwriters'
> manuscripts. Once again... sorry I do not recall what book that was.
> The instrumental track was famously recorded in the Chateau studio in
> France, but typically they probably tinkered some more with it in
> Florida and did the finished vocal track there. My guess is Robin was
> reviewing lyrics to prepare for recording them, but whether writing
> from scratch or just fine-tuning, who knows. Remember that was the
> last song, the one created specifically for the movie.
>
> That's it for now!
> Joe Brennan
>
>
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