Words@brothersgibb.com message digest 09/21/2018 21:01 (#2018-734)

5 messages included in this issue
1Barry and MCA: Smoke and Mirrors?compoccia@aol.com
2Barry and MCA: Smoke and Mirrors?martyhogan@sbcglobal.net
3Barry and MCA: Smoke and Mirrors?marjlarue@gmail.com
4Barry and MCA: Smoke and Mirrors?compoccia@aol.com
5Timeless Releasemarjlarue@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 15:52:00 -0400 From: compoccia@aol.com Subject: Re: Barry and MCA: Smoke and Mirrors? >Now Voyager, to me, was not Barry's best, but I always thought it could have done better. Well, to be honest, I wanted it to do well, after all, it was a Barry "Effin" Gibb outing >(before the "Effin"). As a whole the album hasn't kept my interest, but There are some good tracks on it. "Stay Alone" and "The Hunter" are excellent. I always liked "Shine-Shine" even if it wasn't the best choice for a lead-off single from the album. >I don't remember a slew of promotion towards this release I do. Especially given the Bee Gees were pretty much disregarded by the media and the public by 1984. >All this to say, why would Barry choose MCA as a label to sign? Back then Warner had always been known as the label that was interested and promoted the artistic >creativity of their artist. Warner would invest in their artist, they would give them time If I recall Joe Brennan had once said that the MCA deal had gone back not long after the big success of the Guilty album with Streisand. In 1980-81, Barry may had been seen by MCA as a great catch. By 1984 his star had fallen quite a bit and by 1986 Barry Kitt (who hates the Mom Dad commercial) Sent from my iPad Sal compoccia@aol.com Back to top
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 14:02:37 -0600 From: Martin Hogan <martyhogan@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Barry and MCA: Smoke and Mirrors? It was Andy that told us at a private gathering after his show in San Francisco that MCA did not promote Barry’s album enough. However in Billboard magazine there is a full-page ad for the single “fine line=E2 which did not do very well. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 21, 2018, at 1:52 PM, compoccia via Words wrote: > > > >Now Voyager, to me, was not Barry's best, but I always thought it could have done better. Well, to be honest, I wanted it to do well, after all, it was a Barry "Effin" Gibb outing >(before the "Effin"). As a whole the album hasn't kept my interest, but > > There are some good tracks on it. "Stay Alone" and "The Hunter" are excellent. I always liked "Shine-Shine" even if it wasn't the best choice for a lead-off single from the album. > > >I don't remember a slew of promotion towards this release > > I do. Especially given the Bee Gees were pretty much disregarded by the media and the public by 1984. > > >All this to say, why would Barry choose MCA as a label to sign? Back then Warner had always been known as the label that was interested and promoted the artistic >creativity of their artist. Warner would invest in their artist, they would give them tim > > If I recall Joe Brennan had once said that the MCA deal had gone back not long after the big success of the Guilty album with Streisand. In 1980-81, Barry may had been seen by MCA as a great catch. By 1984 his star had fallen quite a bit and by 1986 Bar > > > > Kitt (who hates the Mom Dad commercial) > > Sent from my iPad > Sal > > > compoccia@aol.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: marjlarue > To: Words List Member > Sent: Fri, Sep 21, 2018 1:06 pm > Subject: [Words] Barry and MCA: Smoke and Mirrors? > > Now Voyager, to me, was not Barry's best, but I always thought it could have done better. Well, to be honest, I wanted it to do well, after all, it was a Barry "Effin" Gibb outing (before the "Effin"). As a whole the album hasn't kept my interest, but I > > I don't remember a slew of promotion towards this release, but I do remember Andy (I think on a talk show) bitching and meaning that MCA didn't promote it. Perhaps this was the case or this was Barry's case? As we know, or as most of us realize, Barry, > > All this to say, why would Barry choose MCA as a label to sign? Back then Warner had always been known as the label that was interested and promoted the artistic creativity of their artist. Warner would invest in their artist, they would give them time > > Who was Barry's management during this time? Did he have management? Lately, Barry has said that his solo outing in the 80s wasn't his best work because, you guessed it, "the twins". I don't buy this no more than Barry does. My point is, I'm sure Barry' > > I also understand that they had been cocooned by Stigwood, being their manager and record label ( what a conflict), so perhaps Barry wasn't aware that Warner, during this time, was the more "artist friendly"... Mom? Dad? > > Open for discussion? > > Kitt (who hates the Mom Dad commercial) > > Sent from my iPad > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > Back to top
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 15:09:59 -0500 From: marjlarue@gmail.com Subject: Re: Barry and MCA: Smoke and Mirrors? Are you saying Barry was publicly promoting the release? I didn't know the MCA deal went back as far as post Streisand, or directly after. Were the brothers satisfied with Warner's treatment? They only stayed for what, 3 albums? Warner went through a big shakeup towards the end of the brothers stay, 92/93. Kitt- Sent from my iPad > On Sep 21, 2018, at 2:52 PM, compoccia via Words wrote: > > > >Now Voyager, to me, was not Barry's best, but I always thought it could have done better. Well, to be honest, I wanted it to do well, after all, it was a Barry "Effin" Gibb outing >(before the "Effin"). As a whole the album hasn't kept my interest, but > > There are some good tracks on it. "Stay Alone" and "The Hunter" are excellent. I always liked "Shine-Shine" even if it wasn't the best choice for a lead-off single from the album. > > >I don't remember a slew of promotion towards this release > > I do. Especially given the Bee Gees were pretty much disregarded by the media and the public by 1984. > > >All this to say, why would Barry choose MCA as a label to sign? Back then Warner had always been known as the label that was interested and promoted the artistic >creativity of their artist. Warner would invest in their artist, they would give them tim > > If I recall Joe Brennan had once said that the MCA deal had gone back not long after the big success of the Guilty album with Streisand. In 1980-81, Barry may had been seen by MCA as a great catch. By 1984 his star had fallen quite a bit and by 1986 Bar > > > > Kitt (who hates the Mom Dad commercial) > > Sent from my iPad > Sal > > > compoccia@aol.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: marjlarue > To: Words List Member > Sent: Fri, Sep 21, 2018 1:06 pm > Subject: [Words] Barry and MCA: Smoke and Mirrors? > > Now Voyager, to me, was not Barry's best, but I always thought it could have done better. Well, to be honest, I wanted it to do well, after all, it was a Barry "Effin" Gibb outing (before the "Effin"). As a whole the album hasn't kept my interest, but I > > I don't remember a slew of promotion towards this release, but I do remember Andy (I think on a talk show) bitching and meaning that MCA didn't promote it. Perhaps this was the case or this was Barry's case? As we know, or as most of us realize, Barry, > > All this to say, why would Barry choose MCA as a label to sign? Back then Warner had always been known as the label that was interested and promoted the artistic creativity of their artist. Warner would invest in their artist, they would give them time > > Who was Barry's management during this time? Did he have management? Lately, Barry has said that his solo outing in the 80s wasn't his best work because, you guessed it, "the twins". I don't buy this no more than Barry does. My point is, I'm sure Barry' > > I also understand that they had been cocooned by Stigwood, being their manager and record label ( what a conflict), so perhaps Barry wasn't aware that Warner, during this time, was the more "artist friendly"... Mom? Dad? > > Open for discussion? > > Kitt (who hates the Mom Dad commercial) > > Sent from my iPad > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > Back to top
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 16:41:29 -0400 From: compoccia@aol.com Subject: Re: Barry and MCA: Smoke and Mirrors? >Were the brothers satisfied with Warner's treatment? They only stayed for what, 3 albums? Warner went through a big shakeup towards the end of the brothers stay, 92/93. >Kitt- Based on a number of statements by Barry in the later years it would appear Barry has not really been satisfied with any record label. Except of course right after he announces a (lucrative) deal. Sal Salvatore Compoccia compoccia@aol.com Back to top
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2018 18:25:44 -0500 From: marjlarue@gmail.com Subject: Timeless Release Timeless, vinyl release. https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/bee-gees-timeless-the-all-time-greatest-hits-to-be-released-worldwide-on-2lp-vinyl-october-26-300716686.html Kitt- Sent from my iPad Back to top
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