Words@brothersgibb.com message digest 04/26/2019 21:01 (#2019-1006)

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1Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps)haddadgeorge@msn.com
2Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps)martyhogan@sbcglobal.net
3Mr. Showbizmartyhogan@sbcglobal.net
4Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps)julian@theglassfamily.co.uk
5Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps)marjlarue@gmail.com
6Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps)garcia10303@gmail.com
7Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps)martyhogan@sbcglobal.net
8Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps)garcia10303@gmail.com
9Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps)garcia10303@gmail.com
10Musicalsbyfinger@hotmail.com
11Robert Stigwoodbyfinger@hotmail.com
12Musicalsgarcia10303@gmail.com
13Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps)martyhogan@sbcglobal.net
14Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps)marjlarue@gmail.com
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 20:37:27 +0000 From: Georges Haddad <haddadgeorge@msn.com> Subject: Re: Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps) U291bmRzIGdvb2QgdG8gbWUuICBIb3cgY2FuIEkgcGF5IHlvdT8NCg0KR2VvcmdlcyBIYWRkYWQN Cg0KT24gQXByIDI2LCAyMDE5LCBhdCAyOjI5IFBNLCBNYXJ0aW4gSG9nYW4gPG1hcnR5aG9nYW5A c2JjZ2xvYmFsLm5ldDxtYWlsdG86bWFydHlob2dhbkBzYmNnbG9iYWwubmV0Pj4gd3JvdGU6DQoN Ck15IGNvcHkgaXMgcGFwZXIgYmFjayBhbmQgaW4gbWludCBjb25kaXRpb24uIEkgd2lsbCBzZWxs IGl0IHRvIGFueW9uZSBpbiB0aGUgVVMgZm9yICQxNSB3aGljaCBpbmNsdWRlcyBwb3N0YWdlLiBM ZXQgbWUga25vdyDigJMgTWFydHkNCg0KU2VudCBmcm9tIG15IGlQaG9uZQ0KDQpPbiBBcHIgMjYs IDIwMTksIGF0IDEyOjE3IFBNLCBEYXZpZCBHYXJjaWEgPGdhcmNpYTEwMzAzQGdtYWlsLmNvbTxt YWlsdG86Z2FyY2lhMTAzMDNAZ21haWwuY29tPj4gd3JvdGU6DQoNClRoZSBib29rIGhhcyBhIHBh Z2Ugb24gYW1hem9uIEF1c3RyYWxpYToNCg0KaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYW1hem9uLmNvbS5hdS9kcC8x OTI1MzI0NzQ1L3JlZj1jbV9zd19yX2NwX2F3ZGJfY19iTDBXQ2I2NzEwUzhKDQoNClRoZSBVUyBh bWF6b24gc2l0ZSBkb2Vzbid0IGhhdmUgYW4gb2ZmaWNpYWwgcGFnZSBmb3IgdGhlIGJvb2ssIGp1 c3Qgc29tZSBvZGQgc29ydCBvZiB1c2VkIGFuZCBuZXcgbGlzdGluZyB3aXRoIG5vIGF1dGhvciBu YW1lIGxpc3RlZCBvbiBpdDoNCg0KaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuYW1hem9uLmNvbS9kcC8xOTI1MzI0NzQ1 L3JlZj1jbV9zd19yX2NwX2F3ZGJfdDFfMlAwV0NiR0FRQ1hOOQ0KDQpUaGUgcGFwZXJiYWNrIGNh biBiZSBvcmRlcmVkIGZyb20gZWl0aGVyLiBUbyBnZXQgdGhlIEtpbmRsZSBlZGl0aW9uIGZyb20g YW1hem9uLmNvbS5hdTxodHRwOi8vYW1hem9uLmNvbS5hdT4gYXBwZWFycyB0byBpbnZvbHZlIGVt aWdyYXRpbmcgdG8gQXVzdHJhbGlhLCB1bmZvcnR1bmF0ZWx5Lg0KDQouDQpEYXZpZCBHYXJjaWEs IHdobyBub3cgZmluYWxseSBoYXMgYW4gZXhjdXNlIHRvIGVtaWdyYXRlIHRvIEF1c3RyYWxpYSBp biBOWUMNCi4NCg0KT24gRnJpLCBBcHIgMjYsIDIwMTksIDEyOjU4IFBNIEdlb3JnZXMgSGFkZGFk IDxoYWRkYWRnZW9yZ2VAbXNuLmNvbTxtYWlsdG86aGFkZGFkZ2VvcmdlQG1zbi5jb20+PiB3cm90 ZToNCldoZXJlIHRvIGdldCBpdD8NCg0KR2VvcmdlcyBIYWRkYWQNCg0KT24gQXByIDI2LCAyMDE5 LCBhdCAxMjo0MCBQTSwgTWFydGluIEhvZ2FuIDxtYXJ0eWhvZ2FuQHNiY2dsb2JhbC5uZXQ8bWFp bHRvOm1hcnR5aG9nYW5Ac2JjZ2xvYmFsLm5ldD4+IHdyb3RlOg0KDQpJ4oCZbGwgc2VsbCBpdCBp ZiBhbnlvbmUgaW50ZXJlc3RlZA0KDQpTZW50IGZyb20gbXkgaVBob25lDQoNCk9uIEFwciAyNiwg MjAxOSwgYXQgMTA6MzcgQU0sIE1hcnRpbiBIb2dhbiA8bWFydHlob2dhbkBzYmNnbG9iYWwubmV0 PG1haWx0bzptYXJ0eWhvZ2FuQHNiY2dsb2JhbC5uZXQ+PiB3cm90ZToNCg0KUmVhZCB0aGUgYm9v ay4gTm90IGJhZC4gU3RpZ3dvb2QgZGlkIGFtYXppbmcgc3R1ZmYuIEEgcmVhbCBnYW1ibGVyDQoN Cg0KU2VudCBmcm9tIG15IGlQaG9uZQ0KDQpPbiBBcHIgMjYsIDIwMTksIGF0IDEwOjMxIEFNLCBE YXZpZCBHYXJjaWEgPGdhcmNpYTEwMzAzQGdtYWlsLmNvbTxtYWlsdG86Z2FyY2lhMTAzMDNAZ21h aWwuY29tPj4gd3JvdGU6DQoNCmh0dHBzOi8veW91dHUuYmUvSTNSaTVkWEtmZncNCg0KQXBwYXJl bnRseSwgdGhlcmUgaXMgYSBiaW9ncmFwaHkgb2YgUm9iZXJ0IFN0aWd3b29kIHRoYXQgSSBqdXN0 IGxlYXJuZWQgb2YgdG9kYXksIHdoaWxlIHdhdGNoaW5nIG9sZCBjbGlwcyBvZiBBdXN0cmFsaWFu IHR2IG9uIFlvdVR1YmUuDQoNClRoZXkgaW50ZXJ2aWV3IHRoZSB3cml0ZXIuIEF0IHRoZSBlbmQg aGUgbWVudGlvbnMgdGhhdCBoaXMgYWdlbnQgaXMgZmllbGRpbmcgaW50ZXJlc3QgaW4gYSBkb2N1 bWVudGFyeSBhbmQgYSBtaW5pLXNlcmllcy4NCg0KQW5kIEknbSB0aGlua2luZy4uLiBIb3cgYWJv dXQgUm9iZXJ0IFN0aWd3b29kIHRoZSBNdXNpY2FsPyBXb3VsZCB0aGF0IGV2ZW4gd29yaz8gQSBt dXNpY2FsIGFib3V0IGEgZ3V5IHdobyBwcm9kdWNlZCBtdXNpY2Fscz8NCg0KVGhlIFlvdVR1YmUg Y2xpcCAtLW5vdCBhIG11c2ljYWwsIGp1c3QgYW4gaW50ZXJ2aWV3IG9mIHRoZSBiaW9ncmFwaGVy IC0tIGZlYXR1cmVzIGxvdHMgb2YgbXVzaWMsIGxvdHMgb2YgZHJhbWEuIFRoZSBoaWdoIHBvaW50 IGlzIHdoZW4gQmFycnkgaW5zaXN0cyBSb2JlcnQgam9pbiB0aGVtIG9uIHN0YWdlIHRvIGFjY2Vw dCB0aGVpciBhd2FyZCB3aXRoIHRoZW0uDQoNCkhhcyBhbnlvbmUgaGVyZSByZWFkIHRoZSBib29r PyBJdCdzIGNhbGxlZCwgYXBwcm9wcmlhdGVseSBlbm91Z2guLi4gIk1yIFNob3diaXouIg0KDQpB dCB0aGUgZW5kIG9mIGl0LCB0aGUgY28tYW5jaG9yIG9mIHRoZSBuZXdzIHNlZ21lbnQgc2F5cyBh Ym91dCBTdGlnd29vZCwgIkRvZXNuJ3QgaGUgaGF2ZSBhIHJlYWwgQXVzdHJhbGlhbiBmYWNlPyIN Cg0KVGhleSBhbGwgYWdyZWUgdGhhdCBoZSBkaWQuDQoNCi4NCkRhdmlkIEdhcmNpYSwgd2hvIG1p Z2h0IGJ1eSB0aGUgYm9vaywgYnV0IHRoZW4gbWF5IGdldCB0ZW1wdGVkIHRvIHN0YXJ0IHdyaXRp bmcgUm9iZXJ0IFN0aWd3b29kIGludGVydmlldyBwYXJvZGllcyBhZ2FpbiBpbiBOWUMNCi4NCg0K DQoiV29yZHMgJiBNdXNpYyIsIEZhbnMgT2YgVGhlIEJyb3RoZXJzIEdpYmIgKCBCZWUgR2VlcyAp DQpodHRwOi8vd3d3LmJyb3RoZXJzZ2liYi5jb20NCg0KDQoiV29yZHMgJiBNdXNpYyIsIEZhbnMg T2YgVGhlIEJyb3RoZXJzIEdpYmIgKCBCZWUgR2VlcyApDQpodHRwOi8vd3d3LmJyb3RoZXJzZ2li Yi5jb20NCg0KDQoNCiJXb3JkcyAmIE11c2ljIiwgRmFucyBPZiBUaGUgQnJvdGhlcnMgR2liYiAo IEJlZSBHZWVzICkNCmh0dHA6Ly93d3cuYnJvdGhlcnNnaWJiLmNvbQ0KDQp Back to top
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 21:31:47 +0000 (UTC) From: Marty Hogan <martyhogan@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps) Sorry George.  Jus sold it. Marty On Friday, April 26, 2019, 1:37:55 PM PDT, Georges Haddad wrote: Sounds good to me.  How can I pay you? Georges Haddad On Apr 26, 2019, at 2:29 PM, Martin Hogan wrote: My copy is paper back and in mint condition. I will sell it to anyone in the US for $15 which includes postage. Let me know – Marty Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2019, at 12:17 PM, David Garcia wrote: The book has a page on amazon Australia: https://www.amazon.com.au/dp/1925324745/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_c_bL0WCb6710S8J The US amazon site doesn't have an official page for the book, just some odd sort of used and new listing with no author name listed on it: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1925324745/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_awdb_t1_2P0WCbGAQCXN9 The paperback can be ordered from either. To get the Kindle edition fromamazon.com.au appears to involve emigrating to Australia, unfortunately. .David Garcia, who now finally has an excuse to emigrate to Australia in NYC.  On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 12:58 PM Georges Haddad wrote: Where to get it?   Georges Haddad On Apr 26, 2019, at 12:40 PM, Martin Hogan wrote: I’ll sell it if anyone interested Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2019, at 10:37 AM, Martin Hogan wrote: Read the book. Not bad. Stigwood did amazing stuff. A real gambler Sent from my iPhone On Apr 26, 2019, at 10:31 AM, David Garcia wrote: https://youtu.be/I3Ri5dXKffw Apparently, there is a biography of Robert Stigwood that I just learned of today, while watching old clips of Australian tv on YouTube. They interview the writer. At the end he mentions that his agent is fielding interest in a documentary and a mini-series. And I'm thinking... How about Robert Stigwood the Musical? Would that even work? A musical about a guy who produced musicals? The YouTube clip --not a musical, just an interview of the biographer -- features lots of music, lots of drama. The high point is when Barry insists Robert join them on stage to accept their award with them. Has anyone here read the book? It's called, appropriately enough... "Mr Showbiz." At the end of it, the co-anchor of the news segment says about Stigwood, "Doesn't he have a real Australian face?"  They all agree that he did. .David Garcia, who might buy the book, but then may get tempted to start writing Robert Stigwood interview parodies again in NYC. "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) http://www.brothersgibb.com "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) http://www.brothersgibb.com "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) http://www.brothersgibb.com Back to top
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 21:32:18 +0000 (UTC) From: Marty Hogan <martyhogan@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Mr. Showbiz Thanks everyone, but it just sold. Marty Back to top
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 22:32:36 +0100 From: "julian@theglassfamily.co.uk" <julian@theglassfamily.co.uk> Subject: Re: Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps) You have to ask whether his life is interesting enough for the general public. He was a private man. So what do we know: He was gay and had a business relationship with Brian Epstein. How did they meet; what was the dynamic in the relation. He built up a stable of artistes including allegedly by theft (the Don Arden incident) He used groundbreaking marketing methods He expanded the role of pop group manager to incorporate publishing and contractually created a conflict of interest with him clients (Bee Gees lawsuit) He used movies as a means of selling records (Idea / Cucumber Castle, (by design or accident) SNF) Incorporating his journey with Bee Gees, is this enough to draw in the public? I’m not sure. Julian Back to top
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 16:55:02 -0500 From: Kitt <marjlarue@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps) Refresh my memory, please, what groundbreaking marketing methods did he use? Kitt- Sent from my iPad > On Apr 26, 2019, at 4:32 PM, "julian@theglassfamily.co.uk" wrote: > > He used groundbreaking marketing methods Back to top
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 18:00:49 -0400 From: David Garcia <garcia10303@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps) Roger Ebert reviewed the film "The Aviator," and said of Howard Hughes that "Hughes apparently became the world's richest man by going bankrupt at higher and higher levels." From what little I know about Robert Stigwood, the same could be said about him. In the YouTube clip from before, there is an interesting anecdote about how he had to convince the band "Cream" to keep touring. Each of the members called him, separately, in utter despair. Each insisted they couldn't continue, for entirely different reasons. And Robert kept saying, "just one more week, just one more week..." In some ways it may be a different way of telling the Bee Gees story. An example: the concert in Indonesia. The stage was flooded, they worried about getting electrocuted. The story might work even better with Stigwood involved, rather than just the viewpoint of the Gibbs alone. Likewise, the story of Robin leaving the band in 1969. Not that my vote changes what happens. But who knows? Could be worthwhile... . David Garcia, who wonders how Barry and the brothers' widows would feel about involvement in such a thing in NYC . Hughes apparently became the world's richest man by going bankrupt at higher and higher levels. On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 5:48 PM julian@theglassfamily.co.uk < julian@theglassfamily.co.uk> wrote: > You have to ask whether his life is interesting enough for the general > public. He was a private man. > > So what do we know: > > He was gay and had a business relationship with Brian Epstein. How did > they meet; what was the dynamic in the relation. > > He built up a stable of artistes including allegedly by theft (the Don > Arden incident) > > He used groundbreaking marketing methods > > He expanded the role of pop group manager to incorporate publishing and > contractually created a conflict of interest with him clients (Bee Gees > lawsuit) > > He used movies as a means of selling records (Idea / Cucumber Castle, (by > design or accident) SNF) > > Incorporating his journey with Bee Gees, is this enough to draw in the > public? I’m not sure. > > Julian > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > Back to top
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 22:02:58 +0000 (UTC) From: Marty Hogan <martyhogan@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps) It did not sell well, perhaps because all of his acts are mainly gone.=A0 But it is full of great facts I had no knowledge of.  It seemed he ran the entertainment industry in the UK at times.  He was flagrant, glamorous, outrageous and generous to a f Marty On Friday, April 26, 2019, 2:48:17 PM PDT, julian@theglassfamily.co.uk wrote: You have to ask whether his life is interesting enough for the general public. He was a private man. So what do we know: He was gay and had a business relationship with Brian Epstein. How did they meet; what was the dynamic in the relation. He built up a stable of artistes including allegedly by theft (the Don Arden incident) He used groundbreaking marketing methods He expanded the role of pop group manager to incorporate publishing and contractually created a conflict of interest with him clients (Bee Gees lawsuit) He used movies as a means of selling records (Idea / Cucumber Castle, (by design or accident) SNF) Incorporating his journey with Bee Gees, is this enough to draw in the public? I’m not sure. Julian "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) http://www.brothersgibb.com Back to top
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 18:31:29 -0400 From: David Garcia <garcia10303@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps) When I saw that the Australian amazon had a Kindle version, with a "get free sample" option, I requested a sample. It then said that I couldn't have one, since it was an Australian Kindle edition. As nearly as I can determine, there is no US Kindle version available. I'm not even sure there is an American printing of the paperback version. The only copies on US amazon seem to be from private sellers, or whatever it's called when folks sell their used books on Amazon. The imprint of the book is Random House Australia. Perhaps Random House in the US isn't interested. Or perhaps the author is still shopping for a better publishing deal. In any case, a search on US amazon for "Robert Stigwood Mr Showbiz" will lead you to the used paperbacks of the biography, which are available for purchase with your US amazon account. Give it a try... . David Garcia, who is in no rush just yet, but keeping an eye out for a future bargain in NYC . On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 6:03 PM Marty Hogan wrote: > It did not sell well, perhaps because all of his acts are mainly gone. > But it is full of great facts I had no knowledge of. It seemed he ran the > entertainment industry in the UK at times. He was flagrant, glamorous, > outrageous and generous to a fault. It is a good book but tough to find. > Try kindle. > > Marty > > On Friday, April 26, 2019, 2:48:17 PM PDT, julian@theglassfamily.co.uk < > julian@theglassfamily.co.uk> wrote: > > > You have to ask whether his life is interesting enough for the general > public. He was a private man. > > So what do we know: > > He was gay and had a business relationship with Brian Epstein. How did > they meet; what was the dynamic in the relation. > > He built up a stable of artistes including allegedly by theft (the Don > Arden incident) > > He used groundbreaking marketing methods > > He expanded the role of pop group manager to incorporate publishing and > contractually created a conflict of interest with him clients (Bee Gees > lawsuit) > > He used movies as a means of selling records (Idea / Cucumber Castle, (by > design or accident) SNF) > > Incorporating his journey with Bee Gees, is this enough to draw in the > public? I’m not sure. > > Julian > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees )http://www.brothersgibb.com > > Back to top
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 18:46:20 -0400 From: David Garcia <garcia10303@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps) The one "marketing gimmick" that I recall is that promotional copies of "New York Mining Disaster 1941" were sent to radio stations with a label that didn't really clarify who was actually performing the song. And at the same time rumors began that this was a Beatles song under a different name. Which seemed reasonable enough, given the song, and the kind of things the Beatles might do. This got it a lot of noteriety and airplay. Beyond that, I think at some point yachts were utilized somehow. Dunno. Stopped paying attention then, because I'm not a boat type of guy... . David Garcia, who now is genuinely starting to wonder just what those hundreds of pages of "Mr Showbiz" actually do talk about in NYC . On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 5:55 PM Kitt wrote: > Refresh my memory, please, what groundbreaking marketing methods did he > use? > > Kitt- > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Apr 26, 2019, at 4:32 PM, "julian@theglassfamily.co.uk" < > julian@theglassfamily.co.uk> wrote: > > > > He used groundbreaking marketing methods > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > Back to top
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 22:57:30 +0000 From: Mark Crohan <byfinger@hotmail.com> Subject: Musicals 4oCcQW5kIEknbSB0aGlua2luZy4uLiBIb3cgYWJvdXQgUm9iZXJ0IFN0aWd3b29kIHRoZSBNdXNp Y2FsPyBXb3VsZCB0aGF0IGV2ZW53b3JrPyBBIG11c2ljYWwgYWJvdXQgYSBndXkgd2hvIHByb2R1 Y2VkIG11c2ljYWxzP+KAnQ0KDQoNCkl04oCZcyBzb3J0IG9mIGJlZW4gZG9uZSBpdOKAmXMgY2Fs bGVkIOKAnFRoZSBQcm9kdWNlcnPigJ0NCg0KTQ0KU2VudCBmcm9tIG15IGlQaG9uZQ0K Back to top
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 23:01:16 +0000 From: Mark Crohan <byfinger@hotmail.com> Subject: Robert Stigwood DQpEYXZpZCBHIHdyb3RlOg0K4oCcDQoNCg0KSGFzIGFueW9uZSBoZXJlIHJlYWQgdGhlIGJvb2s/ IEl0J3MgY2FsbGVkLCBhcHByb3ByaWF0ZWx5IGVub3VnaC4uLiAiTXINClNob3diaXouIg0KDQoN Cg0KDQpIYXMgYW55b25lIGhlcmUgcmVhZCB0aGUgYm9vaz8gSXQncyBjYWxsZWQsIGFwcHJvcHJp YXRlbHkgZW5vdWdoLi4uICJNcg0KU2hvd2Jpei4iDQoNCg0KSSBoYXZlIGl04oCZcyBxdWl0ZSBp bnRlcmVzdGluZw0KDQpEYXZpZCBHIGFsc28gd3JvdGU6IOKAnEF0IHRoZSBlbmQgb2YgaXQsIHRo ZSBjby1hbmNob3Igb2YgdGhlIG5ld3Mgc2VnbWVudCBzYXlzIGFib3V0IFN0aWd3b29kLA0KDQoi RG9lc24ndCBoZSBoYXZlIGEgcmVhbCBBdXN0cmFsaWFuIGZhY2U/IkF0IHRoZSBlbmQgb2YgaXQs IHRoZSBjby1hbmNob3Igb2YgdGhlIG5ld3Mgc2VnbWVudCBzYXlzIGFib3V0IFN0aWd3b29kLA0K IkRvZXNuJ3QgaGUgaGF2ZSBhIHJlYWwgQXVzdHJhbGlhbiBmYWNlPyINCg0KDQpOb3QgcmVhbGx5 IGhl4oCZcyBub3QgZXZlbiBnb29kIGxvb2tpbmcgYW5kIG1vZGVzdCBsaWtlIG1vc3Qgb2YgdXMN Cg0KDQpNYXJrIEMNCg0KU2VudCBmcm9tIG15IGlQaG9uZQ0K Back to top
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 19:02:17 -0400 From: David Garcia <garcia10303@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Musicals Ha! I forgot about that one... The main problem is getting rights to the songs. In "The Producers" they were written by Mel Brooks, not Eric Clapton or the Bee Gees. The contract negotiations might be interesting. The only guy who could put that sort of musical together would be... Robert Stigwood. And he's not here anymore. . David Garcia, who would happily see "Robert Stigwood -- The Musical" if the songs were written by Mel Brooks in NYC . On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 6:57 PM Mark Crohan wrote: > “And I'm thinking... How about Robert Stigwood the Musical? Would that > evenwork? A musical about a guy who produced musicals?” > > > It’s sort of been done it’s called “The Producers=E2 > > M > Sent from my iPhone > Back to top
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 17:08:32 -0600 From: Martin Hogan <martyhogan@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps) This biography about Robert Stigwood has some really surprising information in it. He was quite mad to win at all costs. He lost a lot but he won more. It’s too bad this tome is not readily available. Marty Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 26, 2019, at 4:46 PM, David Garcia wrote: > > The one "marketing gimmick" that I recall is that promotional copies of "New York Mining Disaster 1941" were sent to radio stations with a label that didn't really clarify who was actually performing the song. > > And at the same time rumors began that this was a Beatles song under a different name. Which seemed reasonable enough, given the song, and the kind of things the Beatles might do. > > This got it a lot of noteriety and airplay. > > Beyond that, I think at some point yachts were utilized somehow. Dunno. Stopped paying attention then, because I'm not a boat type of guy... > > . > David Garcia, who now is genuinely starting to wonder just what those hundreds of pages of "Mr Showbiz" actually do talk about in NYC > . > > >> On Fri, Apr 26, 2019, 5:55 PM Kitt wrote: >> Refresh my memory, please, what groundbreaking marketing methods did he use? >> >> Kitt- >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On Apr 26, 2019, at 4:32 PM, "julian@theglassfamily.co.uk" wrote: >> > >> > He used groundbreaking marketing methods >> >> >> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) >> http://www.brothersgibb.com >> Back to top
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2019 18:33:33 -0500 From: Kitt <marjlarue@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Robert Stigwood -- The Musical (perhaps) > On Apr 26, 2019, at 5:46 PM, David Garcia wrote: > > The one "marketing gimmick" that I recall is that promotional copies of "New York Mining Disaster 1941" were sent to radio stations with a label that didn't really clarify who was actually performing the song. Yes, I remember this. Although groundbreaking, I don’t think Stigwood invented this method. Not sure who invented it but I do know that Berry Gordy was employing this when he started Motown, in 59. With racial tensions, Gordy wanted people to like the m Kitt- Sent from my iPad > Back to top
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