Words@brothersgibb.com message digest 05/27/2017 21:01 (#2017-386)

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1The reason Barry won't release the unreleased.julian@theglassfamily.co.uk
2The reason Barry won't release the unreleased.yasdaz17@fastmail.fm
3The reason Barry won't release the unreleased.marjlarue@gmail.com
4The reason Barry won't release the unreleased.martyhogan@sbcglobal.net
5The reason Barry won't release the unreleased.marjlarue@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 20:53:12 +0100 From: "julian@theglassfamily.co.uk" <julian@theglassfamily.co.uk> Subject: The reason Barry won't release the unreleased. Toni, I think you are absolutely right. Regards, Julian Regards, Julian Glass 07870 657789 > On Sat 27 May 2017 at 08:28, Toni Quintan wrote: I think that Barry has a problem with his confidence and reissuing old unfinished songs can be seen by him as a public exposure of a bad work. He is a genius, a not perfect song can't be released, it would give a bad image of him. Back to top
Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 13:32:23 -0700 From: Yasmine Ghulamali <yasdaz17@fastmail.fm> Subject: Re: The reason Barry won't release the unreleased. I think the phrase you are looking for is narcissistic perfectionist, lol. I can appreciate that it is a bit of a leap of faith for any artist to release extra songs, etc.... By definition they have been judged as inferior to the songs on the albums. However, even if not up to high album standards, they are still probably vastly better than most other artists or laypeople. And the larger point is that these songs show a progression through a career of artistic development and technical precision (or whatever you want to call it). These songs are a treasure trove not just for fans but for any potential person who wishes to seriously study the band. In other words, to my mind, if Barry wants to be taken seriously by the music community or academics, releasing the unreleased songs will go a long way to doing that. However, Barry is not thinking like that for either the fans or his future legacy. He is just thinking that the songs were not up to his standards and that therefore he does not want them heard, full stop. No matter his legacy, no matter giving the fans something to really chew on. I really wish an interviewer would ask him about this issue and really nail him on why he is not releasing them. Yasmine On 2017-05-27 12:53 PM, julian@theglassfamily.co.uk wrote: > Toni, > > I think you are absolutely right. > > Regards, > > Julian > > > > > Regards, > > Julian Glass > 07870 657789 >> On Sat 27 May 2017 at 08:28, Toni Quintan wrote: > I think that Barry has a problem with his confidence and reissuing old unfinished songs can be seen by him as a public exposure of a bad work. He is a genius, a not perfect song can't be released, it would give a bad image of him. > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > Back to top
Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 15:52:30 -0500 From: KittLarue <marjlarue@gmail.com> Subject: Re: The reason Barry won't release the unreleased. You may have a point. It's happening with Prince music. NYU had a course taught by Questlove in 2014. There is currently a three day international academic conference on Prince. Purple Reign: An interdisciplinary conference on the life and legacy of Prince is a three day international academic conference hosted by the School of Arts and Media, University of Salford, UK and the Department of Recording Industry, Middle Tennessee St https://goodmenproject.com/featured-content/purple-reign-interdisciplinary-conference-life-legacy-prince-lbkr/ Questlove, 2014. http://nypost.com/2014/03/22/professor-questlove-schools-nyu-students-in-prince-101/ Kitt- Sent from My World > On May 27, 2017, at 3:32 PM, Yasmine Ghulamali wrote: > > These songs are a treasure trove not just for fans but for any potential person who wishes to seriously study the band. In other words, to my mind, if Barry wants to be taken seriously by the music community or academics, releasing the unreleased songs Back to top
Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 22:03:59 +0000 (UTC) From: Marty Hogan <martyhogan@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: The reason Barry won't release the unreleased. To Yasmine's comments: I am sure at some point in the last 15 years at least, Barry WAS asked that question about unreleased material. Robin had once (at least once) stated he wanted the older material released, but he differed to Barry as usual. It was only through Dwina and If anyone watched Barry's pre-release interview(s) about "Now Voyager", he sounded very defensive and ego-centric. It was a very good album, but MCA did nothing to promote it, unfortunately. When I met Andy in 1986, he told me that MCA did a terrible jo So after all these years, it was not surprising to hear Barry say, "Do people really care anymore?" This was just before the Mythology tour in Australia. Shocking yes, but they had fallen by the wayside with an occasional television spot to keep the int Of course, this is all conjecture, but I am afraid that we got all this is coming, other than Barry's next album. Marty From SF -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 5/27/17, Yasmine Ghulamali wrote: Subject: [Words] The reason Barry won't release the unreleased. To: "Words List Member" Date: Saturday, May 27, 2017, 2:32 PM I think the phrase you are looking for is narcissistic perfectionist, lol.  I can appreciate that it is a bit of a leap of faith for any artist to release extra songs, etc....  By definition they have been judged as inferior to the songs on the albums.  However, even if not up to high album standards, they are still probably vastly better than most other artists or laypeople.  And the larger point is that these songs show a progression through a career of artistic development and technical precision (or whatever you want to call it).  These songs are a treasure trove not just for fans but for any potential person who wishes to seriously study the band.  In other words, to my mind, if Barry wants to be taken seriously by the music community or academics, releasing the unreleased songs will go a long way to doing that. However, Barry is not thinking like that for either the fans or his future legacy.  He is just thinking that the songs were not up to his standards and that therefore he does not want them heard, full stop.  No matter his legacy, no matter giving the fans something to really chew on.  I really wish an interviewer would ask him about this issue and really nail him on why he is not releasing them.  Yasmine On 2017-05-27 12:53 PM, julian@theglassfamily.co.uk wrote: > Toni, > > I think you are absolutely right. > > Regards, > > Julian > > > > > Regards, > > Julian Glass > 07870 657789 >> On Sat 27 May 2017 at 08:28, Toni Quintan wrote: > I think that Barry has a problem with his confidence and reissuing old unfinished songs can be seen by him as a public exposure of a bad work. He is a genius, a not perfect song can't be released, it would give a bad image of him. > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) http://www.brothersgibb.com Back to top
Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 17:26:22 -0500 From: KittLarue <marjlarue@gmail.com> Subject: Re: The reason Barry won't release the unreleased. I remember how defensive Barry was when NV was to be released or right after. If I remember correctly, Barry didn't do a lot of promotion for his album. Of course he claimed it was MCA. Perhaps it was. But, this was so long ago Jesus was young. Barry is a big boy and has been for years. It's the business. Suck it up Snowflake. Lol. He should release them for his fans. Enough said. As far as Rob's SBTB, the 2nd and 3rd CDs are the main ones I listen to, with the exception of HFW and M&J on disc 1. I am forever thankful Dwina released his music. I wish Robin would not have continued to defer to Barry regarding releasing music. But then again Barry did have the carrot. Kitt- Sent from My World > On May 27, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Marty Hogan wrote: > > > If anyone watched Barry's pre-release interview(s) about "Now Voyager", he sounded very defensive and ego-centric. It was a very good album, but MCA did nothing to promote it, unfortunately. When I met Andy in 1986, he told me that MCA did a terrible Back to top
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