(#2002-3165) - Topics this issue: 1) Mo, 2) Why compare?, 3) Digest (10/20/2002 18:01) (#2002-3162), 4) SV: Maurice, 5) SV: Digest (10/18/2002 18:01) (#2002-3154), 6) Anyone want Mo's old house?, 7) Anyone want Mo's old house?, 8) Production Styles, 9) Mo-riceeee!, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 11:53:27 +0100 From: "Linda" Subject: Re: Mo Did they start writing as B.R.M.Gibb, rather than crediting the individual, to conceal the possible fact that Maurice wasn't always making a contribution ? At any rate, if you'd like to throw a twist in, those of us who are somewhat dismissive about Mo's contributions could switch sides and take up the argument for why he's a frickin' musical genius and the key to Bee Gees' success while those who have been taking that position could reverse course and argue that he's a splendid example of what's wrong with nepotism. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 21:07:24 +1000 From: "Shangri-La" Subject: Why compare? Someone emailed me the other week, boosting up Maurice's voice (& rightly so), but to do that, they felt they had to bring down Robin's voice. Why? I don't get that mentality. Clearly both Robin and Maurice have totally different voices. Why even bother comparing them?! That said, I am not against discussing any vocal limitations. That is fair enough, and this is a list to discuss the music. As for my opinion on Maurice's voice... I actually love it. It's not heard enough, I'll say that. He has good pitch, and style, and IMO, if any limitations are evident, they stem solely from his personality, not his voice. He under-rates himself -- and if he does it, then people around him will also do it. Why does he under-rate himself. Because for 50 freaking years he has had to hear from people around him, that he doesn't have the voice like his brothers. I may not have been there by his side, but I know what things "those" people said. "Barry's got the voice". Robin's got the voice". blah blah blah... it's the same old story. My younger sister has a gorgeous voice -- only she doesn't know it, because all her life she was told she didn't have one. I recall one particular occasion when she had sang in music class. After she had finished, the teacher said thankyou, and promptly told the class how wonderful her sister (me) was, NOT because he actually thought I was good, as he was a pig to me. He did it solely to undermine my sister. After a while those things affect people. Of course you could say, that's what separates the stars from the wanna-be's, and that is true -- sometimes -- but I digress. It's a damn shame that Maurice only sees himself as being good at arranging. -- Julie "Superman is no one you can be" - Johnny Goudie http://www.iloveelke.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 12:14:10 +0100 From: "Linda" Subject: Re: Digest (10/20/2002 18:01) (#2002-3162) Maurice doesn't seem to have got that much attention in those days. Was it due to lack of vocal ability or lack of confidence ? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julian Glass" To: "words List Member" Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 1:06 AM Subject: Re: Digest (10/20/2002 18:01) (#2002-3162) > If Robert Stigwood had thought that Maurice's voice was as strong as Barry > and Robin's don't you think he would have used it, particularly on Bee Gees > First i.e. before they were established > > Julian > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 13:41:17 +0100 From: "Linda" Subject: Re: SV: Maurice I have to say that I can't, but how much is that because he doesn't do that many leads? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Per Bausager" To: "words List Member" Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 5:53 AM Subject: SV: SV: Maurice . And > try to imagine Maurice singing Angela, Tragedy or Rings Around the Moon. > > Per > > -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- > Fra: ListMember@brothersgibb.com [mailto:ListMember@brothersgibb.com]Pa > vegne af CAPT1SEPT@aol.com > Sendt: 20. oktober 2002 22:26 > Til: words List Member > Emne: Re: SV: Maurice > > > I think that if people listened to every Bee Gee song there was, their > opinions might not be what you would think. How many people, for instance, > might think that because Barry frequently blends his voice with Robin's > voice > on a lot of songs, he has a weak voice? Barry and Maurice have blended their > voices on occasions as well yet Barry is never knocked for having a weak > voice. But, the point is he doesn't have a weak voice and neither does > Maurice - Maurice's voice is underused when it comes to the leads. He's > comfortable with letting Barry and Robin do the majority of the leads and > having his one or two leads. > > > Peace, > Frank > > > The initial question was not concerning Mo's musical contributions. It > was > > claimed that he had no vocal limitations compared with his brothers. As > > already said I beleive most people would find his vocal very far from the > > quality of Barrys or Robins voices. > > > > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:51:40 -0400 From: Joseph Brennan Subject: Re: SV: Digest (10/18/2002 18:01) (#2002-3154) > I had the feeling that (Especially Barry) did not have the > energy to spend 1 or 2 month in the studio to produce one single track. Where I was going with good thing and bad thing was to question this whole idea. Another way of producing is to get a very clear faithful recording that sounds like a live session. The VH1 Storytellers tracks show how good they sound with this type of production. Barry's "solo" tracks on TIWICI approach this idea, with a larger band than Storytellers. I was once very much a fan of the elaborate productions, but not so much now. Joe Brennan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:23:59 -0400 From: Debbie Howell Subject: Anyone want Mo's old house? The following blurb about Mo's old house being for sale appears in the November "Robb Report." It's actually on page 99 of the "Robb Report Collection," a bonus supplement included with this month's issue, among all of the other pricey real estate ads: NEW LISTING -- ROCK STAR HOME! MIAMI BEACH AS SEEN IN "PEOPLE" MAGAZINE Prestigious Sunset Isle II. 24-hour guard gated island. Two-story, wide-open bay home, approximately 8,000 sq. ft., features 6 bedrooms, 7-1/2 bathrooms. High ceilings, crown molding, marble floors, country kitchen with top-of-the-line equipment and separate breakfast room, side-by-side Sub-Zero refrigerator/freezer, double ovens. Dramatic staircase leading to 2nd floor. Two-car garage, pool with waterfall. Separate guest house is 1/1 with living room and kitchen. Seven separate A/C systems. Asking $6,750,000. Won't one of you take this fixer-upper off Mo's hands so he doesn't have to cut my allowance??? Debbie ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:44:05 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Ronnie=20Olsson?= Subject: Re: Anyone want Mo's old house? --- Debbie Howell skrev: > A/C systems. Asking > $6,750,000. > > Won't one of you take this fixer-upper off Mo's > hands so he doesn't have to > cut my allowance??? Sure, Debbie! Hang on while I break open my piggy bank... /Ronnie ===== The Omnipotent King of Scania ****************************************************** Homepage: http://hem.passagen.se/rool8206/ Wanted List: http://www.klippan.seths.se/~kl19082a/ ****************************************************** _____________________________________________________ Gratis e-mail resten av livet på www.yahoo.se/mail Busenkelt! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 10:53:06 -0500 From: "Douglas E Wilson" Subject: RE: Production Styles Joe, chipping in with a clarification: > Where I was going with good thing and bad thing was to question > this whole idea. Another way of producing is to get a very clear > faithful recording that sounds like a live session. The VH1 > Storytellers tracks show how good they sound with this type of > production. Barry's "solo" tracks on TIWICI approach this idea, > with a larger band than Storytellers. I was once very much a fan > of the elaborate productions, but not so much now. I like a good live sound when we're talking about a concert. Part of the disappointment to me in their recent (relatively speaking) concerts was the dependence on pre-recorded tracks (vocals, as well as instruments) in their misguided, IMHO, effort to reproduce the sound of the recordings in a concert setting. However, a concert and a recording are two different animals which should produce two different effects. A recording is meant to be listened to over and over. Hopefully, the listener, will find different levels of appreciation upon repeated listenings. Whereas, a live performance is generally a one-time thing for the listener. As such, imperfections in the performance are less likely to be noticed. Also, in a live performance, often the listener may hear things that aren't really there (congas and timbales in YBSD, for example), depending on the level of familiarity with the work being performed. In my mind, it's kind of like filming the performance of a play . . . it generally doesn't translate as well, plus you're not taking advantage of the medium. Doug (thinking he's made a point in this post, but wondering if you'll have to read it several times to discern it) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:56:16 -0600 From: "Kay Fleitz" Subject: Re: Mo-riceeee! blush, blush, giggle, giggle ********** >From: "Mary Pridham" >Reply-To: words@brothersgibb.com >To: "words List Member" >Subject: Re: Mo-riceeee! >Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 06:46:50 +0930 > >Yes, you did Kay - and I love you for it! > >Mary Pridham, Adelaide, South Oz > > > > Kay who refuses to get hormonal by mentioning he's cute or has a voice >that > > could melt butter - whoops, did I just say that??? > > *********** > > > > > > >From: "Jean Wahlen" > > >Reply-To: words@brothersgibb.com > > >To: "words List Member" > > >Subject: Re: Mo-riceeee! > > >Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2002 12:57:52 -0500 > > > > > >Michael, > > > > > >You're being too thorough. You need to just go with the flow. After >all, > > >the point of having a bashing is to just wade in with insults flying. >LOL. > > >Of course, I can't help with the original question because I lost track >of > > >it. Having too much fun with the responses! > > > > > >jean w. > > > > > >-- > > >From: Michael Liu > > >Subject: Mo-riceeee! > > > > > > > > > >What was the orignal question????? > > > > > > > I came in mid thread to mo bashing and that got me going. I love a >good > > > >bashing, but jsut for kicks, what was the original question? > > > > > > >Mikey > > > > > >"Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb > > >http://www.brothersgibb.com > > > > > >To change any of your list options, > > >please go to website listed above. > > >"Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb > > >http://www.brothersgibb.com > > > > > >To change any of your list options, > > >please go to website listed above. > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! > > http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > > > To change any of your list options, > > please go to website listed above. > > > > >"Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb >http://www.brothersgibb.com > >To change any of your list options, >please go to website listed above. _________________________________________________________________ Get faster connections -- switch to MSN Internet Access! http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp ------------------------------ End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [10/21/2002 12:01] ----------------------------------------------------