(#2002-3157) - Topics this issue: 1) Multiple Vocal Tracks, 2) bootleg comments, 3) COMPUTER PROBLEMS, 4) Multiple Vocal Tracks, 5) Multiple Vocal Tracks, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 12:15:07 +0200 From: "Per Bausager" Subject: SV: Multiple Vocal Tracks Brilliant explanation Doug. I agree 100%. Per -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: ListMember@brothersgibb.com [mailto:ListMember@brothersgibb.com]På vegne af Douglas E Wilson Sendt: 18. oktober 2002 22:34 Til: words List Member Emne: RE: Multiple Vocal Tracks My original comment concerning the large number of vocal tracks found on many Bee Gees recordings: > For a Bee Gees recording (or a Barry Gibb recording), I think > it's a good thing. Linda, posing the age old question: > Why ? To which I respond with the age old reply: Why not? I'm still a big fan of the work done, primarily by Barry, Karl, and Albhy, in the mid-to-late 1970s. The variety of vocals that Barry put on their work during that time was a key to the "Bee Gees sound". Other than Phil Spector and Brian Wilson, in the primes of their respective careers, I don't think anyone else has come close to the sound they produced. Primarily, Barry's vocals, but also the backing tracks. "Spirits" was a masterpiece, in that regard. Instead of singing along the next time you have it in the changer, pay attention to all the little things that are going on in most of the songs. With the exception of "Until", there's hardly a second that something interesting isn't going on. One little musical passage starts to wind down and another one is revving up. Very symphonic . . . not in a classical sense, but more in the interaction between the various passages. A combination of Barry's voice(s) and the variety of musical tidbits weaving in and out of any particular song that seems to be missing from their most recent self-produced effort (TIWICI). Doug "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb http://www.brothersgibb.com To change any of your list options, please go to website listed above. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 20:34:43 +1000 From: "Shangri-La" Subject: bootleg comments Firstly to clarify, when I refer to "bootlegs" I mean those CDs that are out of print, or rare, or live shows etc,.... I paid $25US +p&h, for 2 bootleg live CDs (BGS & Andy Gibb) a while back. Both were on basic CD-Rs, with poorly printed artwork. It would have cost the bootlegger, no more than $5 to print. I love listening to them, but they were most definately NOT worth 25US, and all I did was feed the bootlegger, who is clearly in the game to make money, and not share music for the love of fans. I also got Maurice's The Loner CD from a fellow Australian fan for free. I have since copied it for several people, for free. That is the only way those sort of CDs should be shared in my opinion. On the CD there are some jumps. I inquired with the only bootlegger I knew at the time that sold this cd, and they said the jumps were on their copy too. So I would have paid all that money to have a cd with jumps in it. I would not have been happy. -- Julie ps: Doug, I saw the little www.54seconds.com reference earlier, and I'm not biting, you dirty little street rat, you! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 21:36:43 +1000 From: "BOBBIE" Subject: COMPUTER PROBLEMS This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C277B7.9E321CC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G'DAY I'm having problems with posts from AOL so could people please post me = their mailing posts to me via another site until this problem goes = away... thanks it was 36 Fahrenheit here today so puters playing up... see you on the flipside bobbie ------=_NextPart_000_001E_01C277B7.9E321CC0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 22:09:56 +1000 From: "karen radford" Subject: Re: Multiple Vocal Tracks ----- Original Message ----- From: To: words List Member Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 2:02 AM Subject: Digest (10/18/2002 12:01) (#2002-3153) > (#2002-3153) - Topics this issue: > > 1) Don't Throw It All Away, > 2) Don't Throw It All Away, > 3) Multple Vocal Tracks, > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:16:56 -0500 > From: "Randy Majors" > Subject: Don't Throw It All Away > > To all with discerning ears......... anyone care to take a guess as to how > many different vocal tracks are at the end of the Bee Gees original > recording of Don't Throw It All Away? Never mind if they are all Barry or > some Robin and Maurice, just how many total different vocal parts are > blended there in the last 30 or so seconds of the song? Classic. > > Randy > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 09:40:45 -0400 > From: Joseph Brennan > Subject: Re: Don't Throw It All Away > > > > To all with discerning ears......... anyone care to take a guess as to how > > many different vocal tracks are at the end of the Bee Gees original > > recording of Don't Throw It All Away? Never mind if they are all Barry or > > some Robin and Maurice, just how many total different vocal parts are > > blended there in the last 30 or so seconds of the song? Classic. > > Ever since Albhy Galuten told me 'Too Much Heaven' has 27 vocal tracks, > some of which are have three voices on them, I stopped trying to guess! > > However well it is done, I have come to question whether this is a good > thing or a bad thing. My musical taste has changed over time. > > Joe Brennan > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 09:14:55 -0500 > From: "Douglas E Wilson" > Subject: RE: Multple Vocal Tracks > > Joe, commenting on the multi-layered vocal tracks: > > > Ever since Albhy Galuten told me 'Too Much Heaven' has 27 vocal tracks, > > some of which are have three voices on them, I stopped trying to guess! > > > > However well it is done, I have come to question whether this is a good > > thing or a bad thing. My musical taste has changed over time. > > For a Bee Gees recording (or a Barry Gibb recording), I think it's a good > thing. For a Robin Gibb ballad, not necessarily. For a Maurice Gibb lead > vocal, only if it hides vocal limitations. > > For a Bee Gees concert performance, not necessarily. Two or three "live" > backup singers would do nicely, thank you very much. > > Doug > 52 Seconds and counting > > > Are you insinuating that Maurice has vocal limitations - I think his voice is just as good as his brothers, he is just not utilised as a solo singer as much as they are, maybe his choice, maybe not. I thought his songs on TIWICI were some of his best (especially Man in the Middle), but that is just me. Granted, he can't do falsetto as grand as Barry, nor can he do vibratto like Robin, but his voice is strong and his songs, IMHO, are well written and well performed. I, personally, would like to hear him sing solo more often, but perhaps he is too busy being "musical director" to do too much recording by himself. Karen (who would like to see a Maurice Gibb solo album sometime soon - but not likely) > ------------------------------ > > End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [10/18/2002 12:01] > ---------------------------------------------------- > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > Bee Gees News and Information > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2002 16:39:04 +0200 From: "Per Bausager" Subject: SV: Multiple Vocal Tracks I guess it takes a very very big Maurice fan to claim that his vocal performance as a lead singer is at the same level as Robins and Barrys. He's a brilliant harmony singer, but as lead vocal his much weaker, both in voice power, range and control. Of course he can sound nice if the song not is to challenging, but he hasn't a world class voice like the 2 others - and that's for sure the reason that he rarely sings lead and also that his lead (Close Than Close) in the ONO concert was taped. Per Are you insinuating that Maurice has vocal limitations - I think his voice is just as good as his brothers, he is just not utilised as a solo singer as much as they are, maybe his choice, maybe not. I thought his songs on TIWICI were some of his best (especially Man in the Middle), but that is just me. Granted, he can't do falsetto as grand as Barry, nor can he do vibratto like Robin, but his voice is strong and his songs, IMHO, are well written and well performed. I, personally, would like to hear him sing solo more often, but perhaps he is too busy being "musical director" to do too much recording by himself. -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: ListMember@brothersgibb.com [mailto:ListMember@brothersgibb.com]På vegne af karen radford Sendt: 19. oktober 2002 14:10 Til: words List Member Emne: Re: Multiple Vocal Tracks ----- Original Message ----- From: To: words List Member Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 2:02 AM Subject: Digest (10/18/2002 12:01) (#2002-3153) > (#2002-3153) - Topics this issue: > > 1) Don't Throw It All Away, > 2) Don't Throw It All Away, > 3) Multple Vocal Tracks, > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 08:16:56 -0500 > From: "Randy Majors" > Subject: Don't Throw It All Away > > To all with discerning ears......... anyone care to take a guess as to how > many different vocal tracks are at the end of the Bee Gees original > recording of Don't Throw It All Away? Never mind if they are all Barry or > some Robin and Maurice, just how many total different vocal parts are > blended there in the last 30 or so seconds of the song? Classic. > > Randy > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 09:40:45 -0400 > From: Joseph Brennan > Subject: Re: Don't Throw It All Away > > > > To all with discerning ears......... anyone care to take a guess as to how > > many different vocal tracks are at the end of the Bee Gees original > > recording of Don't Throw It All Away? Never mind if they are all Barry or > > some Robin and Maurice, just how many total different vocal parts are > > blended there in the last 30 or so seconds of the song? Classic. > > Ever since Albhy Galuten told me 'Too Much Heaven' has 27 vocal tracks, > some of which are have three voices on them, I stopped trying to guess! > > However well it is done, I have come to question whether this is a good > thing or a bad thing. My musical taste has changed over time. > > Joe Brennan > > > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 09:14:55 -0500 > From: "Douglas E Wilson" > Subject: RE: Multple Vocal Tracks > > Joe, commenting on the multi-layered vocal tracks: > > > Ever since Albhy Galuten told me 'Too Much Heaven' has 27 vocal tracks, > > some of which are have three voices on them, I stopped trying to guess! > > > > However well it is done, I have come to question whether this is a good > > thing or a bad thing. My musical taste has changed over time. > > For a Bee Gees recording (or a Barry Gibb recording), I think it's a good > thing. For a Robin Gibb ballad, not necessarily. For a Maurice Gibb lead > vocal, only if it hides vocal limitations. > > For a Bee Gees concert performance, not necessarily. Two or three "live" > backup singers would do nicely, thank you very much. > > Doug > 52 Seconds and counting > > > Are you insinuating that Maurice has vocal limitations - I think his voice is just as good as his brothers, he is just not utilised as a solo singer as much as they are, maybe his choice, maybe not. I thought his songs on TIWICI were some of his best (especially Man in the Middle), but that is just me. Granted, he can't do falsetto as grand as Barry, nor can he do vibratto like Robin, but his voice is strong and his songs, IMHO, are well written and well performed. I, personally, would like to hear him sing solo more often, but perhaps he is too busy being "musical director" to do too much recording by himself. Karen (who would like to see a Maurice Gibb solo album sometime soon - but not likely) > ------------------------------ > > End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [10/18/2002 12:01] > ---------------------------------------------------- > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > Bee Gees News and Information > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb http://www.brothersgibb.com To change any of your list options, please go to website listed above. ------------------------------ End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [10/19/2002 12:01] ----------------------------------------------------