(#2002-3113) - Topics this issue: 1) CENSORSHIP, 2) CENSORSHIP, 3) cdr sellers on ebay look out!, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 00:18:34 EDT From: IsleOfGibb@aol.com Subject: Re: CENSORSHIP Chris, I just wanted to say I (WE) APPRECIATE YOU and all of your hard work. You spend a lot of time creating a service that so many of us enjoy. I am glad that you are willing to take the knocks and make the tough choices just so that we can have a Bee Gee community on line! :-) Corinna ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 01:49:40 -0600 From: "Kay Fleitz" Subject: Re: CENSORSHIP Have I told you lately how much I adore you, Chris? >I haven't felt much like putting my two cents worth in here lately. I've >been busy teaching English to some Chinese neighbors, helping one with his >application for asylum and spending time with another neighbor who has >terminal cancer. When I have had time to come online, I've looked forward >to reading the Words posts. To share a few jokes and maybe pick up a >little information. Lately I've found myself avoiding the posts because of >the friction. I'm too tired to get involved or take sides. I would >appreciate if any of my friends here would email me privately once things >quiet down on the list. Until then, I'm just going to disappear into the >woodwork for a while. Hugs, Kay ************ >From: Chris Mathis >Reply-To: words@brothersgibb.com >To: "words List Member" >Subject: CENSORSHIP >Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 21:49:46 -0400 > >The subject of censorship has been brought a few times lately. I felt it >was important to address this publicly. This will be my only reply on this >matter. If after this email some of you would like to further discuss this >me, please feel free to contact me privately. I will not reply again >publicly. I am sure this may be discussed on the list a bit, but I do ask >that it not take center stage. Robin has a new album coming out, (anyone >hear anything about any possible tours?) He also has a new website coming >out etc. This is what this list should be about. > > >Point blank, Does the Words List Censor it's members. > >The answer is: NO. > >Does the Words List have general guidelines, the same guidelines that have >been place for over 6 1/2 years that everyone on the list should go by? > >The answer is: YES > >Are these guidelines to restrictive and do they step on your rights? > >The answer is: NO > >Some may feel so, but they are free to look elsewhere. This is a private >mailing list. Most of the people on this have never had any problems with >any of the guidelines. > >Does the Words List deny access to those that are disruptive, spread hate >and flame wars. > >The answer is: YES > >Is this Censorship? > >The answer is: NO > >There are a few people that are restricted from posting on Words. It is not >because I want to help silence anyone or any group or club. It is not >because I have not tried to work with most of them in the past to try and >resolve any situations. I do not belong to any group or club. I was very >surprised that one or two of these people, instead of trying to "work >things out" never even once tried to contact me, but tried over and over to >get around the list server security. (posting from "new email accounts, IP >addresses, getting others to post for them, etc etc.) So much so that I had >to install filters to block them. Then when they could no longer get around >the list security to post on Words, now they call "Foul!". Now I'm the bad >guy... > >Some feel that they have the right to say anything they want, however they >want. This is not only selfish, but untrue. We all have the responsibility >to take into consideration the other members of the list, and the list >guidelines. This should be common sense. > >Many of you that have been around for a while know of all the "flame wars" >that we all have had to endure in the past. It was at this time that some >hard decisions had to me made. > >I do not mind if anyone posts a message now and again about their list or >web site. Heck, the more the merrier! Just last week someone emailed me >saying that they were going to put up a "Robin" list. They asked me if I >minded if they sent an email to the Words list, about her new one. I told >them I did not mind at all. Now, if that is all that this person did was to >come on this list, to promote theirs, then yes, I would mind. > >Censorship? > >NO. Common courtesy, YES. > >This is supposed to be about having fun, showing support for the Bee Gees. >Not about who can make themselves feel more important by being the one to >get any tidbit of information out first. Instead of trying to bully their >way into getting and doing what they want, it would be far better to work >together. > >I am NOT directing this message at any one person or group! I am responding >to a public accusation! > >Again, this list does NOT censor anyone, but the list, and the list members >will be protected. The "Words List" nor I am anything special. I am just an >average fan. The list is but one of many. > >The best is done to keep the list in harmony with the guidelines that it >has lived by for the past 6 1/2 years. Have I made mistakes along the way, >you bet! Will I make more, sadly, I'm sure I will. But not because I have >not tried. > >.....----===*Chris... > > > >http://www.brothersgibb.com >Bee Gees News and Information > >"Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb >http://www.brothersgibb.com > >To change any of your list options, >please go to website listed above. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Oct 2002 10:42:17 +0200 From: "mirjam vd kooy" Subject: cdr sellers on ebay look out! hello bee gees fans. on ebay are a lot of cdr sellers, a lot of $ for notting! you get a cdr insteat of a orginal cd. names are:scandic-sales/wbm71/swede-gibb/bgqc/info-beegees dk/skaane/ sean forbe/rare gibb/. greetings mirjam >From: ListMember@brothersgibb.com >Reply-To: words@brothersgibb.com >To: "words List Member" >Subject: Digest (10/07/2002 00:02) (#2002-3108) >Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 00:03:01 -0400 > >(#2002-3108) - Topics this issue: > > 1) Digest (10/06/2002 12:01) (#2002-3107), > 2) Robin Solo, > 3) Robin Solo, > 4) Digest (10/05/2002 00:01) (#2002-3101), > 5) Testing Software Upgrade, > 6) Test 2, > 7) Upgrades, > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 14:30:06 -0400 >From: RobinGibb1Fan@aol.com >Subject: Re: Digest (10/06/2002 12:01) (#2002-3107) > >If People Don't Want To Buy Robin New Solo Album When It Comes Out Don't >Buy It Then & Stop Complaining It Gets Very Annoying. > >From Kirsten > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 21:11:37 +0100 >From: "Julian Glass" >Subject: Robin Solo > >Since the end of Spirits the Bee Gees has been the temporary epithete for >occasion work by the three Gibb intented to be marketed as the Bee Gees. >Other work projects have been accommodated to the mutual convenience of >them >all. No doubt Robin's solo project is no different. > >Since 1980 when the Bee Gees have held wealth greater than their wildest >dreams the need for a successful Bee Gees has meant that they receive the >critical acclaim for their work as part of popular music culture. As >individual brothers they have been able to further their careers outside >the >Bee Gees and Robin's album project is no different. Whether Barry and >Maurice have ambitions for themselves only they can say. > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 13:17:44 -0700 >From: "Christine Secrist" >Subject: Re: Robin Solo > >I third the emotion. >Christine > > >----Original Message Follows---- >I must confess it irritates me. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Shangri-La" > > > > I just get tired of seeing posts like "OMG, I hope they aren't >splitting > > up", all the time, . > > -- > > Julie > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 18:18:26 EDT >From: LawrenceFulham@aol.com >Subject: Re: Digest (10/05/2002 00:01) (#2002-3101) > > >--part1_e6.2f80b7ba.2ad210b2_boundary >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >In a message dated 05/10/02 04:59:57 GMT Daylight Time, >ListMember@brothersgibb.com writes: > > > > <best > > >> > > "Rings Around the MOON" > > :o) > > Sorry teacher for not paying attention when posting > Brian > >--part1_e6.2f80b7ba.2ad210b2_boundary-- > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 20:16:23 -0400 >From: Chris Mathis >Subject: Testing Software Upgrade > >Testing Software Upgrade, please ignore... > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 22:37:08 -0400 >From: "Brain Storm" >Subject: Test 2 > > > >Software upgrade, please ignore. > >.....----===*Chris... > >_________________________________________________________________ >MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: >http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > >------------------------------ > >Date: Sun, 06 Oct 2002 23:25:38 -0400 >From: Chris Mathis >Subject: Upgrades > >The Words list has just gone through a major upgrade. Most of us will not >notice any major changes. The list should run smoother with less down time. > >*** Please Note: > >If you have a "BrothersGibb.com" email account, and used to check your >email via the "Web Interface" > >http://www.brothersgibb.com:2000 (notice the port ':2000') > >you can no longer collect your email this way. > >Due to this upgrade, if you have a "brothersgibb.com" account and you would >like to check your WEBMAIL, just go to: > >http://www.brothersgibb.com/webmail > >We did not HAVE to make this change, but now it is easier for you to check >your 'brothersgibb.com' web mail. > >There are a few NEW items as well. > >If you have a brothersgibb.com email account, you now have a Web Calender >built right into your Web email. > >In fact if you go to "Tools" then "Personalize", you can actually choose a >"Themes", (a look, layout, background) that looks similar to Microsoft >Outlook. (for this theme though, you need to have Internet Explorer 5.5 or >later)) > >There is also a utility called "ComAgent" that you can download from the >"Tools" section of your Web email. Just download and install it, (if >interested) > >It is a small utility that will sit on your menu bar on your computer. It >will alert you when you have new mail. Yes, this is nothing new. But what >is cool is that it is also an "IM" Client. (Instant Messaging. Ok, also >nothing new). But what it will do is if there is any other members that >have a brothersgibb.com email account on the list server, you can set them >up in your "Buddy List" and IM them when they are logged in. > >Keep in mind that this will only work if you try and IM someone else that >has an email account on the list server, and they also have the "ComAgent". > >Most of the users that have email accounts on the list server have been >excluded from being visible to the IM list. If you have a brothersgibb.com >email address and you would like me to add you to the list, please feel >free to email me. If you have been included and would like to be taken off >the list, please email me as well. I tried not to add users that may object >to being listed. > >If you do not have a brothersgibb.com email account and would like to have >one, please go to: > >http://www.brothersgibb.com/webmail > >You will be able to create one there. > >I am still experimenting with all of this. If you would like to assist me >in testing, please send me a private email at: > >cmathis@brothersgibb.com > >If you have any email questions or problems, please feel free to contact >me. > >Thanks, > >.....----===*Chris... > > > > >..... > > >------------------------------ > >End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [10/07/2002 00:02] >---------------------------------------------------- >"Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb >http://www.brothersgibb.com > >To change any of your list options, >please go to website listed above. > > > >http://www.brothersgibb.com >Bee Gees News and Information _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [10/08/2002 06:01] ----------------------------------------------------