(#2006-2496) - Topics this issue: 1) Quality Of Music Downloads, 2) "The Bridge" lyrics, 3) Ticket Prices . . . Disgraceful, 4) LOLOLOL and what it means, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 04:55:04 +0900 From: "Robert S. Kim" Subject: Re: Quality Of Music Downloads Aside from the technical issue, did finally Barry decide to control the bootleg market? The current situation that Barry will officially disclose his unfinished work to the public is very analogous to the time when the Beatles released BBC session and Anthology CDs. I guess that some guys who sold an illegitimate CD with Dr. Mann and Underworld at eBay offended Barry's feeling. On 01/10/06, Jill Thompson wrote: > > Regarding the discussion about the quality of the downloaded Barry Gibb > songs from iTunes and why songs aren't available in WAV, etc., there are a > few points I wanted to share with everyone. > > 1. The Barry tracks were obviously demo quality, not finished, commercial > product. That is the main factor in the less than stellar quality. On > these two tracks I really believe whether WAV, MP3, 128kbps, 192kbps, or > lossless format, it would have resulted in subpar sound on those 2 tracks. > Most other commercial tracks (that you can buy on CD) you can download > from > iTunes sound many times better! Try a current commercial song that you > don't want to buy the whole CD sometime and see how much better it sounds. > (If you convert to MP3 though....it will diminish the quality...anytime > you > convert an already compressed file, it will get worse.) You can get a > small, color screen, Nano iPod now for just $149....it, and your computer > (iTunes) will play the songs in AAC and they will be much better than > converting to MP3 from AAC. > > 2. MP3 or AAC (actually slightly better at the same bit rate as MPS) if > taken from a good master source, sound okay at 128 AAC (as iTunes uses) > and > pretty darn good at 192kbps AAC or a good MP3 encoder (iTunes encoder for > MP3 isn't very good, but their AAC encoder is top notch). Most people > could not distinguish a good 192kbps file taken from a CD (WAV) or > lossless > file from the actual CD....perhaps with $500 headphones or with a good > stereo system with good $1000 or more (each) tower speakers. In fact, > with > an ordinary system or portable player/headphones 90% of people would think > 128AAC from iTunes sounded about the same as a CD. > > 3. The facts of #2 is a big part of why iTunes uses 128AAC for music > downloads (people are basically happy with that level of quality, esp for > portable players with earphones). The second factor has to do with just > how > much larger WAV or even lossless (about half the size of WAV with full > quality, no compression) are compared to a compressed file. These files > are > just still too huge for regular downloads. 1 CD of music would take a > very > long time, even with most broadband services available to consumers...not > to > mention the amount of space it would take on the servers. There are still > dial-up customers and a WAV download would be out of the question > entirely. > Too expensive and confusing to offer either. iTunes goal is to make > things > simple and easy and they've obviously been very successful with their > download service and iPod players. Things will continue to evolve. > > 4. I believe lossless formats will continue to be developed and improved. > This takes the file size down at least half of a CD without losing any > quality because nothing is lost or compromised (like a zip file). At some > point, download speeds will increase and file sizes will diminish enough > to > make fully quality downloads practical...perhaps enough to actually > endanger > physical CDs... > > 5. Right now, as a consumer who really cares about sound quality and has > invested a lot of money in audio and video equipment and media, the > price/quality is not to a point that I download anything that I can buy on > CD instead, other than a single song here and there that I have no > interest > in owning the album. I have also bought some otherwise not available > tracks > (like Barry's) from iTunes. > > I am a music loving audiophile (and videophile) as well as an iPod > enthusiast (in addition to being a 35 year Bee Gees fan and Barry > Fanatic!) > and spend quite a bit of time reading and experiencing such topics on a > daily basis. > > Jill > > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:33:47 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time) From: "Ross" Subject: "The Bridge" lyrics What do you guys think? Did I get them right?=0D (Still ain't sure who sings what.)=0D =0D "The Bridge"=0D (Maurice, Adam and Samantha Gibb)=0D Maurice:=0D When I was young I dreamed of you=0D Far and away my dream=92s come true=0D Now I know what love has done=0D Children of mine we all are one=0D Samantha:=0D When I was young I looked to you=0D You were the world I never knew=0D Through the years we all have grown=0D Now in your love forever strong=0D Maurice: (chorus)=0D Would you walk away if I raised my voice=0D Do you think I taught you well=0D Time after time after time=0D Adam:=0D In younger days I felt for you=0D With all the things that we went through=0D We believe the One above=0D Father and Son forever love=0D All:=0D Hand in hand the future=92s here=0D Now that we=92ve crossed this bridge of tears=0D Finding truth and facing fears=0D We can walk on=85the road is clear=0D Maurice: (spoken)=0D Walk across the bridge=0D Take my hand=0D Walk across the bridge=0D Come to me=0D Maurice: (chorus)=0D Would you walk away if I raised my voice=0D Do you think I taught you well=0D Time after time after time=0D Maurice: (spoken)=0D Walk across the bridge=0D Come to me=0D Walk across the bridge=0D All:=0D You=92ll never be far away=0D You=92ll never be far away=0D You=92ll never be far away=0D You=92ll never be far away=0D You=92ll never be far=85(fade)=0D =0D :) Ross=0D "I love making records. I love making music. I love writing songs...I w= ill always have my songs and I don't think I will ever dry up."--Barry Gi= bb ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 16:25:16 -0500 From: "Doug Wilson" Subject: RE: Ticket Prices . . . Disgraceful 1. Please elaborate on why you think it's a disgrace. I'm not sure what the going rate is, but if someone's willing to pay it . . . then why not ask for it? 2. So what did you think about the ticket prices for One Night Only and BG2K? Doug > -----Original Message----- > From: listmember@brothersgibb.com > [mailto:listmember@brothersgibb.com] On Behalf Of Anneduck@aol.com > Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 09:08 pm > To: words List Member > Subject: [words] Digest (09/29/2006 21:01) (#2006-2492) > > Regarding the Babs tickets... I think its a disgrace for the > prices to be what they are. > > Anne > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 17:12:08 -0700 From: "Pat Wong" Subject: LOLOLOL and what it means To further elaborate on Doug's comments, the acronym LOL means laughing out loud. What you're saying then is laughing out loud out loud out loud etc. ------------------------------ End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [09/30/2006 21:01] ----------------------------------------------------