(#2004-52) - Topics this issue: 1) Hard Drive, 2) 4th of July Concert, 3) Digest (07/05/2004 09:01) (#2004-51), 4) Washington Post take on Robin's performance, 5) 4th of July Concert, 6) Digest (07/05/2004 09:01) (#2004-51), 7) Jill?, 8) 4th of July Concert, 9) Washington Post take on Robin's performance, 10) 4th of July Concert, 11) Robin in DC & Fair WX Fan (Literally), 12) Robin on A Capitol Fourth, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 09:57:05 -0400 From: "Bill Busch" Subject: RE: Hard Drive I just simply mentioned it because it is one of the most common mistakes us more knowledgeable computer people make. We always assume others should know what we're talking about. Some people unknowledgeable try things we suggest, then come back and say "Hey, you didn't give up all the information." My post was meant to be informative, that's all. > -----Original Message----- > Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 01:35:15 +0100 > From: "Linda Simons" > Subject: Re: Hard Drive > > No I made the assumption that anyone wanting to do this would > have the = > intelligence to check the requirements of the software. > Jeez I ask a simple question and end up with the Spanish Inquisition. > ------------------------------ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 08:27:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Wilson Subject: 4th of July Concert --0-855695297-1089041228=:38387 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii One suspects that those who thought Robin was great might also be fans of Diana Ross who would also be excited about an appearance of "The Supremes featuring Mary Wilson" . . . or perhaps Beach Boys fans longing for the next concert by Al Jardine. I agree with those who found his performance "underwhelming" and his choice of songs "questionable". One of the main problems is that Robin has no stage presence. Never has . . . and probably never will. The Bee Gees have never been noted for their wild theatrical concerts (thankfully) . . . but, face it, the main reason you watch Robin on stage is to Another problem is that he can't decide if he wants to be Robin Gibb, solo performer; Robin Gibb, member of the Bee Gees; or Robin Gibb, famous by association. It seems he leans more toward the latter, unfortunately. But enough of that . . . this breaking news is just in: "The Washington D.C. Coroner's Office has determined that the microphone stand died from 'strangulation'". Doug (wondering if decaf beverages are outlawed in Baltimore) --0-855695297-1089041228=:38387-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 11:31:13 EDT From: Mnbeegeesfan@aol.com Subject: Re: Digest (07/05/2004 09:01) (#2004-51) --part1_115.34bebc8a.2e1ace41_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/5/04 8:10:29 AM Central Daylight Time, listmember@brothersgibb.com writes: > Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2004 11:35:28 +0000 > From: "Janel Clayton" > Subject: Robin in DC ... Sunday > > Hello Everyone! > > Before I get into the concert, let me thank Katie, Brigitte, her adorable ( > and soon to be famous 12 year old son :) Miles, Linda and Marie for helping > me to have another weekend. I am so glad to you all managed to stay. It > was worth waking up early ( at 530AM for me ) to be first on line ( I've > never been first in line for anything ) at 730AM and stand in the rain all > day to get in, wasn't it .... being only 50 yards away in the first row > after the VIP Section and off to the right ever so slightly ... > > What can I say about the weekend briefly. YES THAT WAS ME HOLDING THAT > SIGN! Heck had it not been raining all day it would have a bit more life to > it. And to think I wasn't going to pull it out because it was so wet .... > anyways, I figured he would sing "HDIYL" so my sign said "My love is very > deep Robin!" and my shirt said "Rockin' 4 Robin". > > You need to know I didn't know I was on camera either time. I called my > husband during Vince Gill and I could barely say "Hello Jerry" and he's > screaming very excitedly "I saw you twice" ( the other time is in the > beginnning of "JT" and I am taking a picture ). If you look you can see > Katie and Brigitte on your left with me during that song and Marie next to > me on your right during "HDIYL". > > I too was a bit sad when they showed the "Stayin' Alive" clips ... because I > realized that that was how those songs should be. All three of them. There > were times the orchestra drowned him out and they turned off his microphone > at the end a bit prematurely so I have no idea what he said at the end > there. If you listen, I am one of the few people that screamed after Barry > Bostwick said "... makes you want to get up and dance" ) > > I admire Robin for having the guts to go on stage and sing. You have to > give him some credit ... this is only his second time performing in America > without Barry on his left and Maurice on his right. I'm not going to > critique it right now because I am still on cloud nine ... but I will say it > was unusual hearing him sing songs that Barry sings lead on. > > The backup singers ... ummmm ... let's just put this way. There will > probably only be three people who can sing together and sound like one. > Only one part of that trio was there last night in person last night .... > though I do think Maurice had something to do with why the rain FINALLY > stopped for good around 7PM :) > > I promise to write more later ... > Janel > > > > Thanks Janel...I am Sooooooo lovin' reading about your "adventure"......keep us posted and share any links to pics that you might have.....please , please, please.....thanks, Talulah (who is usually just a lurker but always enjoys reading this forum) --part1_115.34bebc8a.2e1ace41_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:04:06 -0400 From: "Debbie Howell" Subject: Washington Post take on Robin's performance This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0153_01C46290.8DD3D7E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here are The Washington Post's comments on Robin's performance. (I'll = include the link if you want to read the entire piece.) Although the = mention of Robin is brief, it's complimentary: =20 American Idyll=20 On the West Lawn, a Classic 'Capitol Fourth'=20 By Tommy Nguyen Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, July 5, 2004; Page C01=20 With so many musical moments up for partisan = interpretation, it didn't take a cynic to recognize the show's most = refreshing performance: a tribute to the disco era of the Bee Gees, = featuring a performance by Robin Gibb.=20 With "Jive Talkin'," "How Deep Is Your Love?" = and "Stayin' Alive," Gibb was the only performer whose songs were free = of an inspirational agenda; they simply took people back to a good time = in their lives. Another highlight of the evening was the National = Symphony Orchestra's "Hollywood Blockbuster Medley," led by = top-of-the-pops conductor Erich Kunzel. With movie clips accompanying = the scores of "Ben-Hur" and "Star Wars" and songs including "Moon River" = and "When You Wish Upon a Star," one thing came to mind while watching = the crowds cheer for Clark Gable, Audrey Hepburn and Mark Hamill -- if = God and country fail to unite the people, bet on the movies.=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28333-2004Jul5.html?referr= er%3Demail ------=_NextPart_000_0153_01C46290.8DD3D7E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 10:11:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Brigitte Subject: 4th of July Concert Quoting this morning=92s Washington Post: =93. . . With so many musical moments up for partisan interpretation, it di= dn=92t take a cynic to recognize the show=92s most refreshing performance: = a tribute to the disco era of the Bee Gees, featuring a performance by Robi= n Gibb. With =93Jive Talkin=92,=94 =93How Deep is Your Love?=94 and =93Stay= in=92 Alive,=94 Gibb was the only performer whose songs were free of inspir= ational agenda; they simply took people back to a good time in their lives.= =94 Let=92s face it folks, he wasn=92t really performing for we die hard fans. = He was performing for the PBS demographic. Not exactly lowest common denomi= nator TV, but Americans like my 72 year mother. Though not by far my favorite songs, I am proud of him and his decision to = do these (and no doubt, he was also =93guided=94 to do so). This performanc= e was not about him. It was a tribute. I would have loved, loved, loved to = hear him sing Massachusetts (which was the first Bee Gees=92 song I ever he= ard as an 11-year-old in 1969 and, incidentally, the state where I was born= ) BUT can you imagine the stink such a performance would have raised in thi= s election year? ( . . . think Senator from Massachusetts . . .). Also, though Jive Talkin=92 came out in 1975, my husband reminds me that th= is was practically one of the theme songs of our bicentennial year (1976, t= he year we graduated from high school!) Both that song (and others of cours= e) and spirit of =9176 messages were played ad nauseum that year. Anyone who would think he=92d do something other than this kind of song is = delusional. This was a fantastic weekend for me. Thrilled to meet Janel, Katie, Marie, = Linda and others. I could go on and on, but I=92ll e-mail them privately ;-= ) Cheers, Brigitte PS: Robin was beautiful. His bright red t-shirt perfect (chosen, I am sure,= to match the marine marching band jackets! :-)=20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 12:36:07 -0500 From: "Jill Thompson" Subject: Re: Digest (07/05/2004 09:01) (#2004-51) I have the full 4th of July concert with Robin (including the 30min pre-concert show about fireworks used in DC for the show) recorded on DVD from my my Directv Satellite system using a high quality Sony DVD Recorder. It is in quite excellent video quality and very good stereo audio and I can make perfect digital copies on DVD-R or DVD+R (both playable on over 95% of all newer DVD players in the USA). The only thing negative at all is that our local PBS had an "Amber Alert" going on all during the show and the left top of the screen has a small logo saying "Amber Alert" on it. Kind of distracting. I do plan to record the re-broadcast of the show also...which should be minus the logo and even slightly better video quality (without pre-concert show). If you are interested in possibly getting a digital DVD copy from me, please email me privately. Thanks, Jill ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:50:54 -0400 From: "Robin Rehder" Subject: Jill? Was Robin on the preconcert that you taped? Cool the technological stuff you have for video taping the show. I just taped it from 8 to 9:30 on cassette but hey! it works. Robin from Baltimore Maryland USA. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:53:56 -0400 From: "Robin Rehder" Subject: Re: 4th of July Concert Bridget, I loved your message. Glad you got to go. Would love to have Robin do "Really and Sincerely" but we know that wasn't a hit but I love "Massachusetts." Robin from Baltimore Maryland USA. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brigitte" To: "words List Member" Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 1:11 PM Subject: [words] 4th of July Concert Quoting this morning's Washington Post: ". . . With so many musical moments up for partisan interpretation, it didn't take a cynic to recognize the show's most refreshing performance: a tribute to the disco era of the Bee Gees, featuring a performance by Robin Gibb. With "Jive Talkin'," "How Deep is Your Love?" and "Stayin' Alive," Gibb was the only performer whose songs were free of inspirational agenda; they simply took people back to a good time in their lives." Let's face it folks, he wasn't really performing for we die hard fans. He was performing for the PBS demographic. Not exactly lowest common denominator TV, but Americans like my 72 year mother. Though not by far my favorite songs, I am proud of him and his decision to do these (and no doubt, he was also "guided" to do so). This performance was not about him. It was a tribute. I would have loved, loved, loved to hear him sing Massachusetts (which was the first Bee Gees' song I ever heard as an 11-year-old in 1969 and, incidentally, the state where I was born) BUT can you imagine the stink such a performance would have raised in this election year? ( . . . think Senator from Massachusetts . . .). Also, though Jive Talkin' came out in 1975, my husband reminds me that this was practically one of the theme songs of our bicentennial year (1976, the year we graduated from high school!) Both that song (and others of course) and spirit of '76 messages were played ad nauseum that year. Anyone who would think he'd do something other than this kind of song is delusional. This was a fantastic weekend for me. Thrilled to meet Janel, Katie, Marie, Linda and others. I could go on and on, but I'll e-mail them privately ;-) Cheers, Brigitte PS: Robin was beautiful. His bright red t-shirt perfect (chosen, I am sure, to match the marine marching band jackets! :-) "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) http://www.brothersgibb.com To change any of your list options, please go to website listed above. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:54:49 -0400 From: "Robin Rehder" Subject: Re: Washington Post take on Robin's performance Glad it was a good review on Robin. People have a tendency to be negative and to critique but thanks Deb. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debbie Howell" To: "words List Member" Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 1:04 PM Subject: [words] Washington Post take on Robin's performance Here are The Washington Post's comments on Robin's performance. (I'll include the link if you want to read the entire piece.) Although the mention of Robin is brief, it's complimentary: American Idyll On the West Lawn, a Classic 'Capitol Fourth' By Tommy Nguyen Washington Post Staff Writer Monday, July 5, 2004; Page C01 With so many musical moments up for partisan interpretation, it didn't take a cynic to recognize the show's most refreshing performance: a tribute to the disco era of the Bee Gees, featuring a performance by Robin Gibb. With "Jive Talkin'," "How Deep Is Your Love?" and "Stayin' Alive," Gibb was the only performer whose songs were free of an inspirational agenda; they simply took people back to a good time in their lives. Another highlight of the evening was the National Symphony Orchestra's "Hollywood Blockbuster Medley," led by top-of-the-pops conductor Erich Kunzel. With movie clips accompanying the scores of "Ben-Hur" and "Star Wars" and songs including "Moon River" and "When You Wish Upon a Star," one thing came to mind while watching the crowds cheer for Clark Gable, Audrey Hepburn and Mark Hamill -- if God and country fail to unite the people, bet on the movies. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28333-2004Jul5.html?referrer%3Demail "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) http://www.brothersgibb.com To change any of your list options, please go to website listed above. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 14:01:59 -0400 From: "Robin Rehder" Subject: Re: 4th of July Concert Damn, you're negative. Give Robin a break. It's his first performance since his tragedy. Please. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Wilson" To: "words List Member" Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 11:27 AM Subject: [words] 4th of July Concert > One suspects that those who thought Robin was great might also be fans of Diana Ross who would also be excited about an appearance of "The Supremes featuring Mary Wilson" . . . or perhaps Beach Boys fans longing for the next concert by Al Jardine. > > I agree with those who found his performance "underwhelming" and his choice of songs "questionable". > > One of the main problems is that Robin has no stage presence. Never has . . . and probably never will. The Bee Gees have never been noted for their wild theatrical concerts (thankfully) . . . but, face it, the main reason you watch Robin on stage is to see (a) if he's going to dance, (b) if he's going to get his finger stuck in his ear, or (c) if he's going to trip over something (Las Vegas ONO). But you don't watch him because he's a riveting performer (at least not riveting in the positive sense). > > Another problem is that he can't decide if he wants to be Robin Gibb, solo performer; Robin Gibb, member of the Bee Gees; or Robin Gibb, famous by association. It seems he leans more toward the latter, unfortunately. > > But enough of that . . . this breaking news is just in: "The Washington D.C. Coroner's Office has determined that the microphone stand died from 'strangulation'". > > Doug > (wondering if decaf beverages are outlawed in Baltimore) > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 14:13:00 -0400 From: Bette Hanson Subject: Robin in DC & Fair WX Fan (Literally) Just to give you an idea WHAT Katie, Marie, Linda, Brigette & Miles had to endure... it didn't just rain during their all day adventure... It POURED, thunderstorm-heavy with sheets of rain, wind, lightning & thunder. So gals, my hats off to you. You looked mahvelous with your sign and Robin should be proud to have such dedicated fans. I am sorry I did not meet up and join you... Unfortunately I was with a group of people not as dedicated... and by group decision (isn't that what July 4th is about --- celebrating freedom and democracy?) WE decided to wait out the storms indoors... And storm it did ALL day long. There would be moments where we thought the rain had stopped, and the sun even peaked out a few times and then when we thought it was safe to venture out... the skies would open again! I can only imagine what Janel & Co were enduring. (I was thinking of you and hoping you all had brought rain gear or were taking cover.) The only saving grace was that it was hot and humid and not a cold drenching downpour which would've been 10 times worse... When we finally headed over, we were met with a THRONG of others with the same idea. Lines and lines and lines of people waited until the last minute to go through security checkpoints to get inside the Mall not only to see the show, but to watch the fireworks following the show. I had heard that Robin was scheduled to perform early, so making an executive decision, we escaped back to a nearby building with just enough time to watch it on tv!! It was a disappointing and heartbreaking, however, I think I would've been more heartbroken, waiting in the security line and only hearing the performance, knowing he was live on stage nearby and I couldn't see it... We did go up to the roof afterwards for an amazing display of fireworks surrounding the Washington Monument. As for his performance, I am going to have to agree with Lucas and others... I can only imagine what it was like for Robin, being up on stage in front of a live audience of Hundreds of thousands and a tv audience in the millions --- performing solo, songs written, arranged and stylized for three with another voice designed to lead. He's suffered a devastating loss, his act was courageous, valiant and monumental and my heart goes out to him! From a performance level, I was left wincing. Not because I was expecting a re-creation of the familiar Barry tunes, but as a performer, he looked uncomfortable, out of place and technically his voice (nor his body language) carried through the mix on two of the three songs. I feel for his position and do wonder if as hinted at in articles, he tried to convince Barry to join him BY PICKING those songs... I am not slamming him nor complaining, I am simply offering an opinion as an objective (albeit fair-weather viewer) AND fan who has quite a bit of industry knowledge. I adore Robin and as wonderful it is to see him throw himself into work and courageously face the public, standing solo, trying gamely to fill the shoes of his missing brothers, the experience left me sad & nostalgic... Bette ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 11:39:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Maser Subject: Re: Robin on A Capitol Fourth I agree, but will also point out that he was backed by the National Symphony, so he was probably asked to perform songs with an extant and easy to obtain orchestral score. HDIYL, Jive Talkin' and Stayin' Alive would obviously fit that bill. I wouldn't assume that he had total control over what was played--given the budgets of the two key organizations (PBS and National Symphony), number of personnel involved in the performance, and tight rehearsal schedule, I doubt that Robin would get to perform "I Can't See Nobody" if he wanted to. Also, the songs for which Robin is known tend to be a bit melancholy....not really party fare! With this kind of thing, it's either patriotic songs or dance songs. :-) It wasn't easy to see Robin up there doing those songs all alone. That's a mighty big, empty stage for one skinny guy who is missing his brothers and a band. It also occurred to me while watching this that Robin has never really been required to have stage presence. Barry had it in spades, as did Maurice....Robin never had to learn how to do that on his own. But I do give Robin a lot of credit for doing this. Couldn't have been easy for him. Took a lot of guts. Barry Bostwick needs a new stylist. What was up with those suits... --- listmember@brothersgibb.com wrote: > > Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 09:33:50 +0100 > From: "Maggie Bleksley" > > Subject: Robin's Performance > > My guess as to why he was singing songs normally > sung by Barry at the > Capital 4th is that he was there to do a tribute to > the Bee Gees. I think > that singing BG songs he didn't usually take the > lead in would make him and > the audience feel more that it was more of a tribute > to the Bee Gees, rather > than just singing as Robin Gibb. I hope I'm making > sense. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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