(#2003-3524) - Topics this issue: 1) Maurice, 2) Robin appearing on BBC, 3) David Leaf's comments, 4) David Leaf's comments, 5) Dallas Morning News, Again, 6) Fighting the Fever Stigma, 7) Gibb Authored Soundtrack To Many Lives, 8) The Movie, 9) I can't stand it. (Maurice is Gone), ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 18:28:09 -0000 From: "Maggie Bleksley" Subject: Maurice > > Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 06:16:18 -0500 > From: Raingrl2@aol.com > Subject: Maurice > > Hello everyone....I wanted to ask if it has been mentioned where Maurice was buried. I have been following the news and all the lists since this terrible tragedy, but have not heard a certain cemetary mentioned. Perhaps the family just wants the privacy, which they so very much deserve. I know someday I would like to visit his gravesite, if I ever make a trip to Miami. Please let me know if a cemetary has been mentioned. > Thank you, everyone that has posted here on this Words list, for all the beautiful words about Maurice. Mo was so special to everyone and this has been terribly hard. The beautiful words about this special man do help a little. Linda > > ------------------------------ Sorry, Linda, but according to what I read, Maurice was cremated. The funeral service was at Riverside Gordon Memorial Chapel on Miami Beach. Maggie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:46:20 EST From: YMcKenz@aol.com Subject: Re: Robin appearing on BBC --part1_196.144395ea.2b5c4c7c_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As my posts have shown, I have been devastated by this news. However, reading things like the fact that Robin is doing this BBC interview makes me realize that the Gibbs are setting a tone for the rest of us. I am going to *try* and do the same for them. It is so hard, but if they can go on, so can I. I am still grieving terribly, but I will never let the Bee Gees die in my life; I know Maurice would not have wanted that to happen. By the way I too would try to attend a memorial service if one were held. Yvonne --part1_196.144395ea.2b5c4c7c_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:19:42 -0600 From: Janie Hyatt Subject: David Leaf's comments To David, Thank you so much for your comments about Maurice. They touched my heart. I miss Maurice so much. I hope we can all come to terms with this some day soon. It's really hard to deal with. Thanks to all on the list also. Even though I don't post often, just reading everyone's posts make me feel that I do belong to a very special group of people. I love the Bee Gees. Janie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:54:58 EST From: PROPASSMAX@cs.com Subject: Re: David Leaf's comments --part1_1d2.4393ed.2b5c6aa2_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I went to a casino last night, and the band playing talked about the influence of the Bee Gees, and espically how deep their loss was, concerning Maurice. Then they proceded to play " How can you mend a broken heart". Needless to say they brought the house down, and made us all feel great. Maxine --part1_1d2.4393ed.2b5c6aa2_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 15:01:02 -0600 From: "Douglas E Wilson" Subject: Dallas Morning News, Again Mario Tarradell of The Dallas Morning News had a short piece in today's (Sunday) edition . . . the gist of which falls right in line with the sentiments expressed by some in this forum: Bee Gees' sound felt far beyond 'Fever' When a recent wire service obituary about the sudden death of Bee Gee Maurice Gibb, twin brother to Robin, younger sibling of Barry, tagged the band "disco sensations", I was indignant. The mammoth success of 1977's "Saturday Night Fever" soundtrack was merely five minutes in the band's varied 44-year career. The Bee Gees' catalog -- a vault of original songs and diverse albums -- stretched far before "Fever" and long after it. I remember, as a 13-year-old kid with a burgeoning passion for music, that the Bee Gees' 1979 "Spirits Having Flown" album engulfed me like a towering wall of sound. I couldn't get enough of the brothers' instantly memorable melodies, the infectious rhythms and, especially, the soaring harmonies. I wore that record out; all 10 songs remain engraved in my memory. Everything perfectly meshed, from the hooks and the horns to the keyboards and the bass. The music was pop at its catchy best. They were master crafters of pop songs, from the lovely, early 1970s ballad "How Can You Mend A Broken Heart" to the majestic 1997 hit "Alone." For most of the band's existence -- save for a brief period in 1970 when Robin left the group -- the three siblings sang wondrously around each other's voices, wrote exquisite melodies together and posed for album cover photos. Barry may have handled lead vocals on many of the well-known hits, but without Robin and Maurice it wouldn't have been the Bee Gees. The Bee Gees wasn't like other bands, which sport a front man backed by a handful of anonymous players. These men were extensions of each other. The finished each other's sentences, complemented each other's vocals. They were related genetically and musically. There may be another Bee Gees disc in the future, but it won't be the same. One of those spirits has flown away. Mario Tarradell All in all, a nice tribute to the group, IMHO. Doug ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:06:02 -0000 From: "Linda" Subject: Re: Fighting the Fever Stigma Brian stop being a tease and tells us the name of the movie. Please................... ----- Original Message ----- From: "FULL SPECTRUM RECORDS" To: "words List Member" Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 12:56 AM Subject: Re: Fighting the Fever Stigma > It will change, due to a certain movie (that will be sure to be a > blockbuster) that is being worked on. It uses mostly after-disco Bee Gees > (or written by them) music. It will knock everybody's socks off. > > Brian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "words List Member" > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 4:13 PM > Subject: Fighting the Fever Stigma > > > > I understand the frustration with the Disco stigma. I have been trying to > > give the full picture of the Bee Gees for years to anyone who would listen > > and, of course, so have the brothers the last 20 years! I thought the > > perception of them has changed somewhat over the last 5 years or so, in > that > > the public has not only embraced them again, but also realize the Bee Gees > > have contributed alot more than SNF. > > > > However, after reading the various reports and obituaries of Mo's death it > > was clear that the label still persists. How many times were they referred > to > > as a "disco band"? Yes there were some exceptions, like the NY Times > > obituary which pointed out that dance music was only a small part of their > > repotiare. Mainly, however, their legacy has been tied in with the disco > > phenomonan, at least in the minds of the media. It's not accurate, it's > > unfair. > > > > Will it ever change? Sadly, I doubt it. > > > > Sal > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > > > To change any of your list options, > > please go to website listed above. > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:31:03 -0500 From: "vw6400" Subject: Gibb Authored Soundtrack To Many Lives This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2BFD8.297B9000 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0013_01C2BFD8.297B9000" ------=_NextPart_001_0013_01C2BFD8.297B9000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit _____ TheDay.com Go Back Gibb Authored Soundtrack To Many Lives Associated Press The Bee Gees, from left, Barry, Maurice and Robin Gibb, in a 1979 file photo. Nick Ut A busker walks by the star of the famed disco group The Bee Gees along the Hollywood Walk of Fame Monday. Fans joined surviving members of the Bee Gees in mourning the death of their brother and bandmate Maurice Gibb. By HOWARD COHEN Published on 1/17/2003 The music industry lost a hell of a lot when Bee Gee Maurice Gibb died Sunday after emergency surgery for a blocked intestine. Gibb, 53, will be memorialized for his many contributions to popular music. That's what he did for a living for more than 40 years as songwriter, bassist, keyboardist and vocalist with the Bee Gees. Songs such as "Stayin' Alive," "Tragedy," "Words," "You Win Again" and "Lonely Days," all of which Gibb had a hand in writing and performing, are the soundtracks to the lives of countless people. The Bee Gees' accomplishments during Gibb's tenure are almost without peer: an unprecedented six consecutive No. 1 singles from 1977's "How Deep Is Your Love" through 1979's "Love You Inside Out." More than 110 million records sold worldwide. With more than 500 cover versions in existence, artists ranging from Elvis Presley to Janis Joplin and Celine Dion to Destiny's Child have recorded one or more of their songs. The Bee Gees were banished for most of the '80s, "blamed" for disco after disco lost its luster in the post-"Saturday Night Fever" years. The irony is that the Bee Gees were never a disco group despite including several dance classics in the film. " 'How Deep Is Your Love' was totally R&B and No. 1 a month before the film came out," Gibb said in an April 2001 interview with The Miami Herald. "But that's what happens when people hit a certain formula, it hits a saturation point." The anti-Bee Gees sentiment abated in the mid-'90s, when the trio was inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame and Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Barry Gibb was often the center of attention during the Bee Gees' biggest period - the "Fever" years in the late '70s - and Barry and Robin sang lead on most of their hits. But Maurice "had, by far, the hardest part to sing," the group's former recording engineer, Dennis Hetzendorfer, said. "People don't realize, of the three, he had the second harmony, which is the hardest note to find." Maurice Gibb was just as important to the Bee Gees' sound as the other brothers, Hetzendorfer said. "I've recorded the three of them individually and together and ... nothing sounds like the three of them together. It's a sound that can't be taught and you can't duplicate. This was three brothers singing together their whole life." But, outside the spotlight and industry accolades, Gibb was also one of the most upbeat, accessible stars South Florida has known - and that might be his greatest legacy. He was a gracious human being in the highest echelons of the music business. These traits are often mutually exclusive. "Mo was the one who would come out in the street and meet you," Samii Taylor, the Bee Gees' former assistant recording engineer said, crying from her California home. "He knew what the risks were. They were getting threats on their lives. But he genuinely loved people. He loved to laugh. Despite his problems - he's not the first or the last to have had a substance abuse problem - he'd get back on the horse and keep going because he loved life, he wanted to live." And live, he did. Gibb loved writing music, but he also cherished the youthful sport of paintball - so much so that in June, he opened Commander Mo's, a North Miami Beach shop devoted to the game. Watching Gibb on its opening day, grinning and clad in a flame-colored shirt, as he played with the elaborate toy guns, was to know someone who never lost touch with the child inside. "This had to be about 15 years ago, but Maurice, Robin and I and a bunch of people from the studio went out on his first paintball game," recalls Hetzendorfer. "We went out to some sticks in South Florida somewhere and we had a fabulous time. He was a big kid at heart, and we all knew that. He was (also) a kind and gentle man. He was very much a family man. He loved (his wife) Yvonne and his children, and he lived for his music," Hetzendorfer said. Despite a life of wealth and fame - writing hundreds of popular songs will tend to make a person very rich - Gibb never seemed to lose touch with his working class roots. One of his favorite hangouts was Jimmy's East Side Diner, at Northeast 72nd Street and Biscayne Boulevard in Miami. Now, Jimmy's Diner is not the sort of spot where one would expect to bump into a star - VIP ropes out front would look ridiculously out of place at this neighborhood eatery. But this is where Gibb came weekly for breakfast - coffee, bacon, eggs, grilled tomatoes and "lots of butter," a waitress said - a pre-game meal with his paintball pals. Denis Tetenes and his staff at the diner erected a makeshift memorial to Gibb on Sunday. Tetenes cordoned off the back table Gibb used, placing an arrangement of flowers, an autographed Bee Gees picture, a lit candle and a coffee cup. The table is set for dining as it was the last time the star sat there. Tetenes planned to keep this section of the restaurant closed for three days. "He deserves more than that, but sometimes you don't know what to do," Tetenes said. Waitress Iris Lynch, who had served Gibb over the years, remembered Gibb's spirited talks about paintball. "He mentioned his other brothers. He'd say Robin wouldn't want to get hurt, Barry wouldn't like this, but Andy would have loved this!" she said, smiling. (Andy Gibb, the youngest brother but never a member of the Bee Gees, died in 1988 of a heart infection). When Gibb read a story in The Miami Herald over the recent holidays about a quadriplegic Hialeah, Fla., man whose wish was for a computer to help in his recovery process, Gibb called the paper with an offer to buy the man a computer. "It's Christmas, mate," Gibb said. He was "the one who came out from behind the wall and met the people," as Taylor said. "We did a small memorial, but it's nowhere near enough," Jimmy's owner Tetenes said. Maurice Gibb would have been delighted. C The Day Publishing Co. ------=_NextPart_001_0013_01C2BFD8.297B9000-- ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C2BFD8.297B9000-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 14:25:35 -0800 From: "FULL SPECTRUM RECORDS" Subject: The Movie The title is actually the name of an Elvis song, which I don't know if I should reveal. In listening to it around 1990, I realised it told a very incomplete, yet obviously powerful core story. It didn't tell how he got in that position, nor how it was resolved, but it formed a very poignant core. After many failed attempts to make something good from it, I let it rest, though it was always in my mind. While shopping for some furniture it 1997, I heard a GREAT song in the background. I actually told my wife and the salesman to be quiet, I just had to listen. It was Alone. I went out and bought Still Waters, and proceeded to listen to it repeatedly, narrowing my focus down to 6 songs (the 1st 5 songs and Miracles Happen). As I listened to these literally 100's of times, the creative juices flowed like never before. "I Could Not Love You More" became the song that resolved the situation in the Elvis song, and comes in at the most emotional part of the story, right after a scene that will bring an emotional gasp. The Screen jumps to life with the opening 'bang' of Alone, and ends with "Miricles Happen'. The closing credits roll to 'I Surrender'. I sent one scene to Middle Ear, and just got a brief letter back from Dick Ashby. Then one day, out of the blue, I got a call from NARAS (the charity) saying my name had been given to them on a list from Barry (or his people, I suppose) for the opportunity to go to the premiere of SNF-The Musical. She said they had just sold tickets to the Gibbs lawyers. As they called down the list, each person had to decide how many tickets they wanted right there and then, as there were only 100, only the 1st 50 numbered tickets also got to go to the VIP party, and they had sold 36. So I jumped on it and bought 2, and a week later met the boys. Barry & Maurice knew who I was when I introduced myself and said the name of the screenplay. Robin didn't, saying he had been in England and asked me several questions about it. It wasn't done yet in 1999, and I went through periods where I worked hard on it, and other periods where I did nothing. But it gradually came together and in 2000 I hired a former Vice President for Script Development of Universal Pictures as a consultant. We are having out 3rd teleconference next Friday. I had spoke to the Stigwood people a couple years ago, and they said they were too tied up with SNF to do a movie then. I have a call arranged with them for tomorrow (Monday), as he had announced he is shutting down SNF (or will he now?). I am not as interested in the "selling" of the script as I am in insuring it is done in a manner than brings down the wall in peoples minds about the Bee Gees. If done as I have it written & scored, the movie will re-define how people look at them. Who knows, maybe they'll get that long-overdue Oscar. I know that if I got one, I would say it's for them. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda" To: "words List Member" Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 11:06 AM Subject: Re: Fighting the Fever Stigma > Brian stop being a tease and tells us the name of the movie. > Please................... > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "FULL SPECTRUM RECORDS" > To: "words List Member" > Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 12:56 AM > Subject: Re: Fighting the Fever Stigma > > > > It will change, due to a certain movie (that will be sure to be a > > blockbuster) that is being worked on. It uses mostly after-disco Bee Gees > > (or written by them) music. It will knock everybody's socks off. > > > > Brian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: "words List Member" > > Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 4:13 PM > > Subject: Fighting the Fever Stigma > > > > > > > I understand the frustration with the Disco stigma. I have been trying > to > > > give the full picture of the Bee Gees for years to anyone who would > listen > > > and, of course, so have the brothers the last 20 years! I thought the > > > perception of them has changed somewhat over the last 5 years or so, in > > that > > > the public has not only embraced them again, but also realize the Bee > Gees > > > have contributed alot more than SNF. > > > > > > However, after reading the various reports and obituaries of Mo's death > it > > > was clear that the label still persists. How many times were they > referred > > to > > > as a "disco band"? Yes there were some exceptions, like the NY Times > > > obituary which pointed out that dance music was only a small part of > their > > > repotiare. Mainly, however, their legacy has been tied in with the disco > > > phenomonan, at least in the minds of the media. It's not accurate, it's > > > unfair. > > > > > > Will it ever change? Sadly, I doubt it. > > > > > > Sal > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > > > > > To change any of your list options, > > > please go to website listed above. > > > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > > > To change any of your list options, > > please go to website listed above. > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 09:39:06 +1100 From: "BOBBIE" Subject: Re: I can't stand it. (Maurice is Gone) g'day Nancy I'm finding parallels to Mo's passing and my fathers health problems and later his death... see you on the flipside bobbie ----- Original Message ----- From: "nancy brandenburg" > This is my first attempt to weigh in... I can't stand it. Flashback to 1990 when my own husband passed away. Oh Yvonne, my heart hurts for you. I have > my own "BeeGees Link" of sorts-my first husband and I were married on October 17, 1987. Go be with Andy and Hugh, Maurice, and know you left this > world a better place than when you came in. Much love and comfort to everyone who truly apprecicated the contributions Maurice Gibb gave to this > world, for it is we who are truly blessed. > Nancy Brandenburg ------------------------------ End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [01/19/2003 18:01] ----------------------------------------------------