(#2003-3521) - Topics this issue: 1) Fighting the Fever Stigma, 2) Digest (01/18/2003 00:01) (#2003-3517), 3) Fighting the Fever Stigma, 4) Just listen, 5) Bee Gees 2003 calendar, 6) Musings ...., 7) The Yellow Is Fading Fast, 8) song of the brothers, 9) Fighting the Fever Stigma, 10) Bee Gees 2003 calendar, 11) radio 2ws tribute fizzer in my book, 12) a dedication, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:13:22 EST From: SCompo1993@aol.com Subject: Fighting the Fever Stigma I understand the frustration with the Disco stigma. I have been trying to give the full picture of the Bee Gees for years to anyone who would listen and, of course, so have the brothers the last 20 years! I thought the perception of them has changed somewhat over the last 5 years or so, in that the public has not only embraced them again, but also realize the Bee Gees have contributed alot more than SNF. However, after reading the various reports and obituaries of Mo's death it was clear that the label still persists. How many times were they referred to as a "disco band"? Yes there were some exceptions, like the NY Times obituary which pointed out that dance music was only a small part of their repotiare. Mainly, however, their legacy has been tied in with the disco phenomonan, at least in the minds of the media. It's not accurate, it's unfair. Will it ever change? Sadly, I doubt it. Sal ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 19:32:47 EST From: SCompo1993@aol.com Subject: Re: Digest (01/18/2003 00:01) (#2003-3517) I kind of hope Barry isn't doing an album with MJ. 10 or 15 years ago it would've been a big deal, but now, given MJ's poorly tarnished image, it my not be the best move for Barry right now (just look at the distraction MJ's presence caused throughout this period already, although I may be a bit too harsh, MJ may just be there for support to Barry and the family, as a good friend would). Musically, I always thought it would be a very natural fit. But, I think the time has past. Moreover, with Barry and Michael you have two true perfectionists, who love to tinker and spend a long time making an album. The album would come out in 2010! I'd rather see Barry do another album with Striesand, with he and Robin writing the songs again. That would be a better choice at this stage. Sal ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:56:16 -0800 From: "FULL SPECTRUM RECORDS" Subject: Re: Fighting the Fever Stigma It will change, due to a certain movie (that will be sure to be a blockbuster) that is being worked on. It uses mostly after-disco Bee Gees (or written by them) music. It will knock everybody's socks off. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "words List Member" Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 4:13 PM Subject: Fighting the Fever Stigma > I understand the frustration with the Disco stigma. I have been trying to > give the full picture of the Bee Gees for years to anyone who would listen > and, of course, so have the brothers the last 20 years! I thought the > perception of them has changed somewhat over the last 5 years or so, in that > the public has not only embraced them again, but also realize the Bee Gees > have contributed alot more than SNF. > > However, after reading the various reports and obituaries of Mo's death it > was clear that the label still persists. How many times were they referred to > as a "disco band"? Yes there were some exceptions, like the NY Times > obituary which pointed out that dance music was only a small part of their > repotiare. Mainly, however, their legacy has been tied in with the disco > phenomonan, at least in the minds of the media. It's not accurate, it's > unfair. > > Will it ever change? Sadly, I doubt it. > > Sal > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:31:57 EST From: YMcKenz@aol.com Subject: Just listen --part1_191.13d49455.2b5b5a0d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there. This is to all of you who have not yet been able to listen to the Bee Gees' music since Mo died (wow--that's hard to write). I just got finished doing my exercises, to which I often listen to Greatest. Tonight I put in Tales From the Brothers Gibb Part II, which I highly recommend (along with everything else). Anyway, I too thought it would be very, very painful to listen to them, but in fact, it is truly the opposite. It is almost soothing; it feels normal. I can even listen to Mo's songs--it makes me feel like he is still with me, as he always will be. As far as the press is concerned and the attention and love the Gibbs are now getting from others, was Mo a sacrificial lamb? Did this happen so that the world would draw their attention to the Bee Gees once more? Why has that Wall been coming down? And what a price to pay.... So Mo is even more special to me now. If that's possible. Yvonne --part1_191.13d49455.2b5b5a0d_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:38:37 EST From: BeeGeeQ@aol.com Subject: Bee Gees 2003 calendar --part1_7f.313fff5c.2b5b5b9d_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We have done an additional printing of the BGQ 2003 Bee Gees calendar so there are still some available. The calendar is a 6X9 glossy card with an unpublished photo of the Bee Gees (Mo in foreground sitting, Robin and Barry standing behind him) and the calendar on the front. The back has pertinent Gibb dates - birthdays, anniversaries, etc., and a picture of Andy Gibb. Calendars are $7 each, plus shipping - less when buying in multiples. Write beegeeq@aol for an order form if interested. --part1_7f.313fff5c.2b5b5b9d_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 02:07:16 +0000 From: "Janel Clayton" Subject: Musings .... Watching the A & E Biography, I almost forgot Maurice was gone. During a commerical, I saw the picture from 1978 in People Magazine and remembered why I grew to like the brothers in the first place ... the music and, oh, the look! But I was brought back to reality when Biography host Harry Smith said something like "Surviving brothers Robin and Barry ... " Took a long long drive to try and clear my head today. I just have to realize that for better or worse, Maurice is gone. People always tell me that everything happens for a reason ... I don't know if I will know the reason behind this one for a long while. Other artists have come and gone, but no one has had the impact on me that the brothers have. I learned so much from Maurice and his brothers, that I am just going to have to deal with this hurt for a long time. There's a part of me that is afraid to pick up another "hobby" like the way I have followed the brothers, their careers, their personal lives. That way, if something happens, I won't feel the hurt I have felt this week. Anyway ... I agree that something has to be done to rid the Bee Gees of that fever stigma. It is too bad it may finally happen now, after Mo's death. I almost dread watching the Grammy tribute ( if there even is one ) because you know that's what they will focus on. My sister has tried to get me to accept that ... that the Bee Gees will forever be known only as the disco group. I try explaining all the great songs the brothers had before and after Fever. I mean, even if the brothers had only done Fever ( and believe me, I know they have done more than that! ) that in itself was an accomplishment. Four original number ones, ( six if you count "Dancing" and "Jive Talkin'" ), more than 30 million copies sold, but again, the Fever album was one of what, more than 28 studio albums and at least five compilations? How many of today's stars can put out enough songs to put out a greatest hits tape within three years of signing a huge record deal like the brothers did with Stigwood in 1967? Not many ... but the Bee Gees did! I wonder what we can do about this ... but I don't have any ideas right now, and will stop now before I ramble for eternity. I know I've done a lot of rambling this week ... I thank you all for letting me do so. Take care .... Janel _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 21:14:21 -0500 From: "Richard Foote" Subject: The Yellow Is Fading Fast "We can't try to understand the New York times affect on man . . ." Twenty five years ago I believed that. But not today. I'm older now. And wiser - so much wiser. I think the BeeGees have changed their point of view on this issue too. I , personally, would like to thank the Gibbs for their willingness to speak to the media at all in this tragic affair. When I look back at what all the journalistic community did to decimate the BeeGees over the years, from "Kill the Disco Kings" to Andy's untimely death, I am greatly inspired by Rob and Barry's graciousness to trust the media with any statement whatsoever regarding Mo or their musical future. In the vast majority of news reports over the last week a newer, kinder, more mature journalism has reigned supreme. Maybe, just maybe, the yellow jaunticed journalists of a decade and two ago are being replaced by those who are not intimidated by their own self-imposed embarrassment for having once danced the night away to BeeGees music. Writers live vicariously through their pens, disc jockeys through the music they choose to play. This, they feel, defines who they are - or rather who they think they ought to be. If jealous rage ever had a hold of anyone, it roared through the pens of mousy little men who knew they'd never have the talent to stand up and be counted great men of importance, let alone have an enth of the talent and ability that the BeeGees do, especially in their own medium of writing. We attack what we fear. People who cannot, have the tendancy to tear at the heals of those who lead. Rather than raising their own personal standards of being, they mock and chide and put all their energies into reducing others down to their own lacking size in order to lull themselves into the false belief that they are equal with the greats. They are the disgruntled, the slow, the small minded sorts who have opinions larger than their own ability to reason. They hunt and peck their way into the minds of unweary consumers who simply came to read the news of the day. Their words are viral in nature and spread from print to mouth to mass attitude. Sadly, for so long, we sheepish stood by the wayside believing the pioson of their pens could not be neutralized. But just like the venom of the aging serpant, the bite of their words has become less and less forceful, losing it's impact over the years, while all around quietly built an immunity to their petty little hate mailings. All the while, the brothers took their licks and stayed standing, straighter and stronger than ever. I would like to believe that the feud is finally over - that the BeeGees have stood the test of time and proved themselves gentlemen of honor, elder statesmen in the kingdom of rock and roll - that the journalistic community has waved the white flag and abdicated control of both career and private life back to the boys from Manchester. Mo would have liked to have to have seen this day while he was still here. He talked of it often in interviews. Many of us used to speculate at what it would take for the media to grow up and give the BeeGees their due. Now we have our all-too-predicated, tragic answer. I'd like to think of this as one of the many blessings Mo has left behind for those he loved so much. Maybe the man in the black hat had the white flag tucked under his brim all along just waiting for the moment slip it into the pocket of that first reporter who talked to Barry on the phone last Sunday. After all, Mo was always the peacemaker, always the man in the middle . . . Mary Lee and all the wonders made for the earth, and all the hearts in all creation, another story there to be told.... -the BeeGees- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 22:18:09 -0400 From: susan Subject: song of the brothers I thought it would be hard to listen or sing any beegees music for a long while. it is so hard to believe that Mo is gone. But on Friday while I was a work, I started to sing I started a joke . And I was not quiet either, I felt quite a peace with pain I had felt. people who were older than I got the idea of me sing and respected me for it . And when you work at a call center and deal people calling every day you need something to up lift you. And that song did and gave the warmest feeling. I still can believe that he is gone but i think singing this song started me on a healing process. Susan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:14:39 -0800 From: "mitch sommers" Subject: Re: Fighting the Fever Stigma I guess Brian that YOU know something WE do not!!!!??? Please tell. I'll hold my breath until you do. Michelle ----- Original Message ----- From: "FULL SPECTRUM RECORDS" To: "words List Member" Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 4:56 PM Subject: Re: Fighting the Fever Stigma > It will change, due to a certain movie (that will be sure to be a > blockbuster) that is being worked on. It uses mostly after-disco Bee Gees > (or written by them) music. It will knock everybody's socks off. > > Brian . ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:54:49 -0800 (PST) From: Mary Rose Subject: Re: Bee Gees 2003 calendar --0-1129838672-1042944889=:44461 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Are you speaking of the BGQ 2003 calender or one you have made up?You have me confused here. That isn't the BGQ email address. Mary Rose The Bee Gees - http://fortheloveofthebeegees.com Andy Gibb:Shadow Dancer - http://andygibb.50megs.com The Bee Gees Message Board - http://www.bandlink.net/forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=18 The Jeff Sheu Fan Club - http://groups.yahoo.com/group/officialjeffsheufanclub Poetry by Jeff Sheu - http://jeffsheu.50megs.com Above and Beyond:Jeff Sheu - http://jeffsheumusic.50megs.com TJ's World - http://tjbaker.50megs.com --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now --0-1129838672-1042944889=:44461-- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 19 Jan 2003 13:53:26 +1100 From: "BOBBIE" Subject: radio 2ws tribute fizzer in my book This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C2BFC2.238562E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable g'day although wilber wilde did a sterling job of the narrative...apart for = the last 5 mins of it, it was all taking from keppel road. wilber had overdubbed Mervyn's narrative... and it wasn't 2hours long as first thought only an hour... try better next time 2ws very disappointing... see you on the flipside bobbie ------=_NextPart_000_009F_01C2BFC2.238562E0-- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:38:54 -0800 From: "Kelly Curd" Subject: a dedication This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01C5_01C2BF31.9DD65F90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, Tonight I dedicated "Everlasting Love" to Maurice on K-BIG's Disco = Saturday Night (In Los Angeles). While the song was playing I realized = how fitting it was to have song from Andy played for Maurice. Imagining = their reunion brings a smile to my face. I've been having a hard time putting feelings into words. In a sense, = my "relationship" with Maurice was nothing but fantasy. Yes I did meet = him but he didn't "know" me. In a sense, I feel like I knew him though. = He was a "real presence" in my life but not a "real person" in my life. = Maurice can still exist for me in the fantasy sense as he did before. = His gift to us all, his music, is as it was (perhaps with new meaning = now). =20 Still, things have changed. There was a comfort knowing that he was = here in this world, that there was the possibility of meeting him once = more, hearing him sing live once more. Luckily I was blessed enough to = see the brothers in concert 4 times. It was so special to see them at = Wango Tango. I first saw them at Dodger's Stadium in '79 at the height = of their popularity. I could almost sense the pride in them as they = played in the same venue, getting the same reaction from the crowd that = they had more than 20 years before. One of THE most exciting days in my life was when I "connected" with = Maurice online. He did a chat for a radio program. It was before the = One Night Only--Vegas concert. People were talking about the brother's = wardrobe of all things---they should wear more colors and lose the = black---no, they should keep the black. In my excitement I suggested = that they wear "clear clothing". Maurice caught my humor and replied, = "Naked it is Puppy!!!" (3 exclamation marks--I remember). God what a = thrill! I know I'm rambling. Thank you for listening or just politely deleting. Thank you Maurice for the comfort and enjoyment that you have = unknowingly given to me. I know that somehow you understand. We don't say good-bye.... Kelly (Puppy Chow) ------=_NextPart_000_01C5_01C2BF31.9DD65F90-- ------------------------------ End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [01/19/2003 00:01] ----------------------------------------------------