(#2003-3515) - Topics this issue: 1) My last words on medical issues, 2) My last words on medical issues, 3) MUZAK, 4) Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512), 5) Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512), 6) Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512), 7) Digest (01/17/2003 00:01) (#2003-3513), 8) SV: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512), 9) Leute heute, 10) SV: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512), 11) SV: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512), 12) Our Beloved Mo video, 13) SV: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512), 14) SV: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512), 15) random thoughts, 16) David Leaf's tribute to Mo on beegeesonline.com, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:03:00 +0100 From: Juan Perea y Monsuwe Subject: My last words on medical issues First of all, I want to apologize to David Garcia, Joe Brennan, Christine and others who might have found the detailed description of Mo's medical condition not appropriate and who want to remember Mo the way he was. I, of course, remember him the same way, but I'm just interested the same way Barry and Robin are. I find it an enormous invasion of privacy and bitter for the Gibb family the report of the autopsy can be found online. I am honest in saying I am guilty of reading it -- curiosity got the better of me. Now I wish I hadn't. But at least it made the following clear: 1. Maurice was in very good health and condition. He only showed some signs of smoking, no more. 2. Maurice tragically lost the battle cause of a birth defect. In more than 90 percent of the cases, it is diagnosed and treated within the first year after birth. It is extremely rare to appear in adult age (intestines twisted like a corkscrew), although it might have surfaced during an x-ray of the chest with barium in a medical check-up. 3. Whether or not participating in physical activities stressing the whole body and esp. the abdomen (like paintball) caused the final pressure, remains questionable. 4. Still he should have been operated on much earlier (the Wednesday afternoon - Thursday 4 am gap), even if it would have been very difficult even then still to save Maurice. I guess that's all there is to it -- Juan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 12:27:25 +0100 From: "Hartmuth Benz" Subject: RE: My last words on medical issues > 1. Maurice was in very good health and condition. He only showed > some signs of smoking, no more. Yvonne told me Mrch 2001: "He smokes very, very much - too much - he smokes like a trooper." ... and she looked worried. Greetings, Hartmuth ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:48:28 EST From: BJBear5103@aol.com Subject: MUZAK just noticed that there seems to be more Gibb tunes being played on the Muzak system here at work. good to hear, especially during this time. michael ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:01:32 -0500 From: "Ronnie Olsson" Subject: Re: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512) -----Original Message----- From: Bernade772@aol.com To: "words List Member" Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 18:11:28 EST Subject: Re: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512) > If I were the Gibb Brothers I would be very careful with Michael > Jackson > He outbid Paul McCartney on the Beatle songs > Make sure that he does not get any of yours I wouldn't worry so much about that. In the case of the Beatles songs they (meaning chiefly Lennon and McCartney) didn't own the rights to the songs and anyone could have bought them when they were up for sale. Michael did follow Paul's advice to invest in music rights and I suppose Paul himself owns quite a few non-McCartney songs that the real owners would like to have back and I don't think he has any quarrels about that. And if Paul did buy up the rights to the Beatles songs, would he then split it 50/50 with Yoko? I can understand Macca, but it isn't like he's not getting anything from the album sales. After all, he is one of UK's richest persons. Bee Gees currently own the rights (as well as the mastertapes) for all songs since 1967 and I doubt they will ever put them up for sale. I also doubt Michael would be so interested in their Australian recordings, Spicks and Specks probably the only exception. Ronnie http://www.brothersgibb.com Bee Gees News and Information ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 09:37:09 -0500 From: Joseph Brennan Subject: RE: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512) > If Michael has an alterative motive I'd like to know who's dropping an MJ story to the press almost every day. He's working on a project with Barry, he was working on a Bee Gees album with Maurice (heard that one last night), he's talking to Jennifer Lopez about buying her house. It sure isn't Dick Ashby. Is MJ twisted enough to use this occasion for publicity? Joe Brennan Gibb Songs http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 15:31:14 +0100 From: "Plaza Online" Subject: SV: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512) BUT WHY IS IT THAT YOU ARE SO SURE THAT THERE'S NO PROJECT WITH MJ AND BARRY? PER -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: ListMember@brothersgibb.com [mailto:ListMember@brothersgibb.com]Pa vegne af Joseph Brennan Sendt: 17. januar 2003 15:37 Til: words List Member Emne: RE: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512) > If Michael has an alterative motive I'd like to know who's dropping an MJ story to the press almost every day. He's working on a project with Barry, he was working on a Bee Gees album with Maurice (heard that one last night), he's talking to Jennifer Lopez about buying her house. It sure isn't Dick Ashby. Is MJ twisted enough to use this occasion for publicity? Joe Brennan Gibb Songs http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) http://www.brothersgibb.com To change any of your list options, please go to website listed above. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:24:03 -0500 From: "Ronnie Olsson" Subject: Re: Digest (01/17/2003 00:01) (#2003-3513) -----Original Message----- From: SCompo1993@aol.com To: "words List Member" Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 01:39:47 EST Subject: Re: Digest (01/17/2003 00:01) (#2003-3513) > While I agree with Barry and Robin's decision to investigate > Maurice's death to the fullest, I for one am hoping that there > was no negligence. Mo's death is so sad and tragic, the thought > that he may have died needlessly makes it even more of a tragedy > and would serve to couple all our sorrow with anger. My sentiments exactly. I too hope that this is not a case of negligence. I can understand that the Gibb family is shocked about this, as we are, and that they might feel a need to put the blame on something or someone to understand and/or to come to terms with Maurice's death. I don't know much about matters of a medical nature and I won't draw any conclusions about the reasons behind his death. We will all eventually hear the findings of the investigation but in the end neither his family nor his fans will ever get Maurice back. I haven't really had time to process it all. I have been both emotionally and physically tired all week. I have slowly started playing their music again and I will sit down and play it all (or as much as humanly possible) over the weekend. I *will* enjoy myself, I *will* have a good time and I will still be sad come Monday morning. Ronnie http://www.brothersgibb.com Bee Gees News and Information ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 10:20:48 -0500 From: Joseph Brennan Subject: Re: SV: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512) > BUT WHY IS IT THAT YOU ARE SO SURE THAT THERE'S NO PROJECT WITH MJ AND > BARRY? Forget that. Why is this in the news every day? Very little entertainment news is reported. It's fed from publicists. Joe Brennan Gibb Songs http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:28:39 +0100 From: marion budde Subject: Leute heute Hi guys! If you are able to receive the German TV channel ZDF: there will be a report about Mo tomorrow on "Leute heute". 18.1.03, ZDF, 6.30 p.m. CET Marion ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:58:15 +0100 From: "Toni Quintana" Subject: Re: SV: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512) > Forget that. Why is this in the news every day? Very little > entertainment news is reported. It's fed from publicists. It must be said for any purpose... There must be something going on and it may appear in a future.Anyway I won't believe anything that it is not in my hands. Talking of Mo.., I do believe that if he had been treated before, had been examinated just entering the hospital, he had had a chance...., in this cases time is the key...., I've had had this experience in my family.... My mom died because the doctor waisted his time, my grandmother and father almost did it too but we had already learnt the lesson...., I'm very "sensitive" to this subject. I try to listen to Bee Gees and Mo songs as muchs as I can, to me is the best therapy. At the beginning is hard to do, but it is the best way to keep him alive. All in all I still can`t believe this has happened. Toni. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:00:46 +0100 From: "Dubois David" Subject: RE: SV: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512) they spoke to do something together since several years but nothing was never done until now. When I spoke to a MJ fan in a record fair, he laughed about me when I said that the Bee Gees will work with M J. My opinion is that I don't trust M J for anything he did with the Bee Gees, but it's my personal opinion, I can be wrong. David Bee Gees Fan -----Message d'origine----- De : ListMember@brothersgibb.com [mailto:ListMember@brothersgibb.com]De la part de Toni Quintana Envoyé : vendredi 17 janvier 2003 16:58 À : words List Member Objet : Re: SV: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512) > Forget that. Why is this in the news every day? Very little > entertainment news is reported. It's fed from publicists. It must be said for any purpose... There must be something going on and it may appear in a future.Anyway I won't believe anything that it is not in my hands. Talking of Mo.., I do believe that if he had been treated before, had been examinated just entering the hospital, he had had a chance...., in this cases time is the key...., I've had had this experience in my family.... My mom died because the doctor waisted his time, my grandmother and father almost did it too but we had already learnt the lesson...., I'm very "sensitive" to this subject. I try to listen to Bee Gees and Mo songs as muchs as I can, to me is the best therapy. At the beginning is hard to do, but it is the best way to keep him alive. All in all I still can`t believe this has happened. Toni. "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) http://www.brothersgibb.com To change any of your list options, please go to website listed above. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 16:06:02 -0000 From: "Maggie Bleksley" Subject: Our Beloved Mo video I'd like to say a big thank you to Mary Rose for making that lovely video available to us all. You must have put a lot of work into it. It's very professional and I find it comforting to look back at all the pictures of Mo, throughout his life - also 'I Still Love You' is my favourite Bee Gee song at the moment - it's so fitting right now and I've played the track so many times that I've got it on my brain most of the time. A bit of advice if anybody has trouble getting it to work on Mary Rose's site. I couldn't get it to work, so I pasted the URL http://fortheloveofthebeegees.com/mo.wmv into my Windows Media browser. It took a long time to download, but now it works really well even offline, so I'll keep it on there. But if you do this, you should still got to the http://fortheloveofthebeegees.com Website if you haven't visited it, as there's lots more great Bee Gees stuff on there. Maggie ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:00:49 +0100 From: "Plaza Online" Subject: SV: SV: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512) You may be right. It's also stange that none of the brothers have mentioned anything about it. Ans the info come from a lot of different sources but always without being concrete. It's always just called "a project". Per -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: ListMember@brothersgibb.com [mailto:ListMember@brothersgibb.com]Pa vegne af Joseph Brennan Sendt: 17. januar 2003 16:21 Til: words List Member Emne: Re: SV: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512) > BUT WHY IS IT THAT YOU ARE SO SURE THAT THERE'S NO PROJECT WITH MJ AND > BARRY? Forget that. Why is this in the news every day? Very little entertainment news is reported. It's fed from publicists. Joe Brennan Gibb Songs http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) http://www.brothersgibb.com To change any of your list options, please go to website listed above. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 17:18:22 +0100 From: "Toni Quintana" Subject: Re: SV: Digest (01/16/2003 18:01) (#2003-3512) They did not mention Robin's solo album either (to my knowledge) until it was almost in the stores. Toni. > You may be right. It's also stange that none of the brothers have mentioned > anything about it. Ans the info come from a lot of different sources but > always without being concrete. It's always just called "a project". > > Per ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:37:52 EST From: Bcnuctowson@aol.com Subject: random thoughts --part1_1a0.f4a0334.2b598b60_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been reading the very wonderfully worded messages here all week and all I can do is echo the thoughts of so many people on this list and around the world. As someone who rarely posts, like so many others, we feel compelled to express our sadness and to add that being on this list has helped so much to get thru this unbelieveable tragedy and to give so much information on eveything that has happened. It has been a comfort to read the messages and to view the BBC interview as well. We also want to somehow, someway give the family comfort, we would take away their pain if we could. We want them to know that we cherish the Brothers Gibb and will as long as we are breathing . It must be of some comfort to know how many people around the world have grieved for Maurice, it is an amazing thing to realize this. Had this happened but a few years ago we would have felt isolated in our grief because we would not had the support of this list to answer all of our many questions, and to know that so many of us have made their music an integral part of our lives. I've been listening to their music for over 30 years but I can't listen to it now, don't know when I'll be able to again, but it won't be for long. It will sound differently to me now, and the songs will take on new meanings. I've never been lucky enough to have seen them in concert, certainly not to have met them, but somehow, we feel like we know them, they have given us such a great gift in adding to the quality of our lives. I think Maurice would not want us to be sad for long, I think he would want us to think of him as the way he seems to us - funny, witty, happy, clever, and not dwell on his untimely death, but remember all of the good things he was and will always be to us. But that's a hard thing to do and perhaps time will help that to happen.. Thanks to all of you for all of the information you have given about everything that has happened, it has been such a help and comfort. This morning on CBS's The Early Show it was announced that A & E's Biography was running the Bee Gees' show tonight. I could not find a time for this in my television listing but I'm sure it is on their website, for anyone who may want to catch this again. Cindy --part1_1a0.f4a0334.2b598b60_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 11:48:39 EST From: Bygrace28@aol.com Subject: David Leaf's tribute to Mo on beegeesonline.com --part1_134.19a434fa.2b598de7_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en 1/15/2003 10:46:00 AM IN MEMORIAM...At a time like this, there is nothing on= e=20 can say that will help. Nothing that one can write that will ease the=20 terrible hurt. The Gibb family's loss is being felt by millions of people=20 all over the world, but I know that doesn't even begin to assuage their pain= .=20 There is an empty place in the universe, a sense that the Brothers Gibb hav= e=20 been suddenly, prematurely and unnecessarily torn asunder. In addition to the work I've done with the Bee Gees... in addition to the=20 great fortune I've had in getting to know them a little bit as people... I'v= e=20 also worked closely with another artist whose group was built around the=20 harmony of three brothers. Only last week, my wife and I were having dinner with Brian Wilson. When we= =20 asked him to choose dinner music, he asked for the Bee Gees. While one of=20 their CDs played, I asked him where he ranked the group in his personal top=20 ten. Very softly but definitively, he said "Number One." We said, "Ahead of= =20 the Beatles?" He said, "Yes." We said, "Ahead of the Beach Boys?" Again, he=20 said, "Yes." That would have meant so much to Maurice, who was such a big Beach Boys=20 fan... and so kind to Brian when the Beach Boys were recording at Criteria i= n=20 Miami in the late '70s. And on Sunday, when Brian heard the news, having=20 lost both his brothers, he called and asked me to give Barry and Robin his=20 condolences and his love. He also gave me this statement to share: "Maurice Gibb was one of my favorite Bee Gee's because his voice was so=20 expressive. It made me happy and feel really good to hear him sing. His=20 voice had a joy to it that touch ones soul. On a personal level, l loved hi= s=20 sense of humor and his spirit. He was a real friend to me." "I remember when I inducted the Bee Gees into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame= ,=20 and I sang [their song] 'Too Much Heaven.' I was blown away by the experienc= e=20 only to find out later that Maurice was feeling the same sentiments. I will= =20 truly miss him. At a time like this, all my love and prayers go out to his=20 family, and of course, his brothers." Because of the work I've done with the Bee Gees through the years, I've=20 received a few telephone calls asking me for a quote or to write something.=20= =20 In those interviews, the one thing that I've been emphasizing is that Mauric= e=20 shouldn't be overlooked, that there were major contributions he made to the=20 records and the live performances that will be sorely missed. First of all,=20 whether it was on-stage or on television or in an interview situation,=20 Maurice was the showman. Barry is often the frontman and spokesperson...=20 Robin is a magical presence on stage, the fans eagerly anticipating his next= =20 vocal ...but Maurice always gave the audience... even if it was just one=20 reporter... a great show. As you know, the brothers came from a show business, more than a rock 'n'=20 roll, tradition, a philosophy in which you always gave the audience your=20 best, and that was taught to them by their father. When they first started=20 performing, they were, in essence miniature Mills Brothers and I think=20 Maurice best personified that ethic.=20 From what I saw, while he was a down to earth guy, he always had a real=20 presence about him. He was really great with fans, signing autographs,=20 talking to them. He always had time for people. He was an extremely kind=20 person, very outgoing. To use a colloquialism, he was a "great mate." =20 Maurice had a wonderful sense of humor. He could have fit in with the Goons= =20 or Monty Python... The brothers had so much fun together. Writing, recording= ,=20 rehearsing, touring=E2=80=A6they=E2=80=99d really laugh a lot. Sadly, Mauri= ce's laughter=20 will never be heard again at Middle Ear. For those of us, like me, who were lucky enough to spend time with him, both= =20 alone and when the three brothers were together, I can only remember that=20 constant laughter. I know that someday, Barry and Robin too will be able to= =20 smile again at the thought of all the great times they shared. The brothers= =20 taught us a that you can mend a broken heart. This is different, and as wit= h=20 Andy, while their hearts will mend, the heartbreak will never go away. In terms of the record making, Maurice was a key member of the band. I thin= k=20 it's fair to say he was the techno whiz of the Bee Gees. He was the guy who=20 always got the latest piece of gear first; in the early 1970s, he was=20 probably the one playing with the synthesizers. And that love of gadgets an= d=20 electronics never waned. Whatever the latest thing that came along, Maurice= =20 got it and figured out how it could help make the records better. I think=20 his embracing technology was one big reason why Bee Gees records always=20 sounded contemporary. When it came to the instrumental sound, the rhythms,=20 the beats, I think Maurice played a major role in all of that, had a big han= d=20 in the sound of Bee Gees records. And, as you know, on records like the autobiographical "Man In The Middle,"=20 Maurice had a really distinctive lead vocal sound. You get the sense=20 listening to him of a unique artist who had musical interests that might not= =20 be defined as typically Bee Gees. Permit me one personal favorite moment... A few years ago, I was in Las=20 Vegas, assigned by a television magazine show to cover the "One Night Only"=20 concert, get some "behind-the-scenes" footage of the guys and interviews wit= h=20 people like Celine Dion. A friend of mine... the guy with whom I produced=20 "This Is Where I Came In" ...was there with me that day. He'd volunteered t= o=20 work as my production assistant, just for the opportunity to hear and see th= e=20 Bee Gees. He, like all of us, is a big fan. That day, we entered the MGM=20 Grand Arena from the rear (I can hear Maurice cracking a joke right about=20 now), and walked towards the stage. The brothers were in mid-rehearsal mode= .=20 Looking up Maurice spotted me and turned to his brothers and said, "There's= =20 David Leaf." And then proceeded to play a symphonic fanfare on his keyboard= =20 rig. What a welcome that was. Typical Mo... always glad to see you, always= =20 generous with his time and attention. In my career, I've been privileged to meet quite a few of my heroes. I can=20 assure you that there was nobody sweeter than Maurice Gibb. On Sunday as I watched the repeat of the Larry King show, I couldn't help bu= t=20 shed a tear... for the brothers and their families, of course... for Yvonne=20 and their children, for their mother, for their devoted friend, Dick Ashby,=20 and for all of the Gibbs who lost a loved one. But we've lost a treasure too. There are few people who can always make us=20 smile, and Maurice could do it just by walking into a room. He was a funny=20 man, even though, like Barry and Robin, he was quite serious about Bee Gees=20 music. It's self-evident that Maurice was an integral part of the Bee Gees trademar= k=20 three-part harmony. While we have an enormous body of Bee Gees music... bot= h=20 from the studio and in concert... to listen to, sadly, we'll never hear that= =20 magical blend again. Nor see the three brothers acting like modern day Marx= =20 Brothers. What a loss. And with those thoughts, I shed another tear. No doubt, Barry and Robin wil= l=20 make great music together sometime in the future. No doubt, it will sound=20 like Bee Gees music. But, no doubt, no matter how great the records are, we= =20 will always feel the void that has been left by Maurice's passing. His=20 physical presence is gone, but he has left us so much of his spirit that we=20 will never really be without him. There is little one can say to comfort anybody when a brother is taken so=20 unexpectedly. As the middle of three brothers, I hope to avoid knowing the=20 pain the brothers Gibb are feeling for a long time. I can only offer the thoughts and prayers of brothers everywhere who dread=20 the moment when that special bond is permanently broken. And of music lover= s=20 around the world --- Sunday was a very sad day for harmony. ...and words are all I have... and, unfortunately, right now, they feel=20 almost completely inadequate. Be certain that I join all of you in saying a= =20 prayer... and pledging to keep Maurice's memory alive, bright and shining. =20 All who were touched by him feel his loss deeply. We love you, Mo. God bless you. David Leaf --part1_134.19a434fa.2b598de7_boundary-- ------------------------------ End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [01/17/2003 12:01] ----------------------------------------------------