(#2003-3494) - Topics this issue: 1) AMAs, 2) Digest (01/13/2003 23:43) Special Issue (#2003-3493), 3) AMA's, 4) AMA's, 5) Digest (01/13/2003 00:02) (#2003-3484), 6) Maurice, 7) AMA, 8) Bee Gee Chat Room Ramblings, 9) Bee Gee Chat Room Ramblings, 10) mirror.co.uk, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:11:47 -0500 From: Jacqueline Gifford Subject: AMAs I, too, was really really REALLY annoyed with watching the AMAs only to be bored to tears for 2+ hours and in the last moments watch them flash a dedication to Maurice!!!! And not even a picture. I used to work in TV, folks, it ain't that hard to find a picture and put it on the air, even if at the last moments. I used to think Dick Clark was a somewhat classy guy: so much for that. I feel an itch to write a stern letter to Dick Clark productions! I also was very disappointed that not one of the artists mentioned the Bee Gees or Maurice. I can think of other music artists' deaths, for example, Kurt Cobain's, Lisa Left Eye Lopez's, and Aaliyah's, that were at least mentioned by their fellow artists. Not that those artists' deaths were less or more important than Maurice's, but the fact that Bee Gees have a place in AMA history and international musical history: someone should have said something even it simply out of respect. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:41:26 EST From: Angeldrd@aol.com Subject: Re: Digest (01/13/2003 23:43) Special Issue (#2003-3493) --part1_10e.1d0c558b.2b54fd06_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all.... Though I have cried every minute of reading every post....it has given me such comfort to read all your stories and heartfelt words. There is so much I wish I could say, but I just can't find the words. In that case, I usually let their song lyrics say it for me, but now even that doesn't suffice. I had a pretty hard growing up, and was very lonely and introverted. There were many times I was downright suicidal. The thing that saved me was the Gibbs. They and their music saved me. The example they set as people, and their music was my lifeline. When I got older, the friends I made because of them, and the adventures I had because of them, drew me out of my shell and made me a happier, more self assured person. They nurtured my soul with their music and just by being the people they are, as much as my own family did...and they gave me this wonderful extended family in all of you. I feel as if I've lost a brother, and I'm angry at the uselessness of it. That little bit of sunshine has gone out of the world. I wish I could send out a cyber hug to all people on this list, but especially people like Nils and Joey and Chris and Renee....whose love of the Gibb has put the guys has been an overriding drive in their lives. I know your loss is that much more acute. One thing about Mo, was his incredible sense of humor. I think it would be nice if we could share stories about Mo and his sense of humor, and maybe let him make us smile one more time. When I think of Mo, I always think of the story of him and the cadillac. For those of you who never heard it...it goes something like...there was a new Cadillac Mo wanted, but he refused to buy it until it went on sale. Like the man doesn't have all the money in the world! But it was the principle of the thing...he just waited and waited. Well, it took a while, but the price finally did go down, and Mo went to buy his car, but in his final little twist of Mo-ness....he paid for the new cadillac...in pennies!!! I'm not sure how true it is, but I can just see that wonderful grin! Does anyone else have stories to share? Denise you're written on my soul, Mo...in every language known --part1_10e.1d0c558b.2b54fd06_boundary-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 00:52:40 -0500 (EST) From: darc1@webtv.net Subject: Re: AMA's I watched it till about an hour left and shut it off but it's no surprise that Mo did not get a mention during the show, If a rapper would have been killed by another one again they would of had a ten minute tribute to him. Dick Clark should be ashamed of himself, if there was not enought time the least they could of done was at least mention Mo. Sorry about vending but I am so sick of the way these guys get treated in this country, it's sickening. Patrick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 22:17:03 -0800 From: "Full Spectrum Records" Subject: Re: AMA's Did they mention George Harrison or any of the others that died? Maybe there wasn't time to work Maurice in, or did they just not mention anyone, per se? Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "words List Member" Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 9:52 PM Subject: Re: AMA's > I watched it till about an hour left and shut it off but it's no > surprise that Mo did not get a mention during the show, If a rapper > would have been killed by another one again they would of had a ten > minute tribute to him. Dick Clark should be ashamed of himself, if there > was not enought time the least they could of done was at least mention > Mo. Sorry about vending but I am so sick of the way these guys get > treated in this country, it's sickening. > > Patrick > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 01:34:18 EST From: SCompo1993@aol.com Subject: Re: Digest (01/13/2003 00:02) (#2003-3484) I don't know if any one has mentioned this yet, but in case not, I will. Take a look at the info booklet in the TIWICI CD. Right in the middle of the booklet is a picture of all three Bee Gees sitting down. Strangely, Barry and Robin are separated from Maurice. Maurice is seated away from them and there is a shadow cast on him. Given that this would be their last album together I find it very eerie. I'm new to the list, but I could not have joined at a better time. To share my sadness with other fans is comforting. I still can't believe Maurice is gone. Sal ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 22:58:51 -0800 From: "Taryn" Subject: Maurice This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C2BC20.812BC560 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Life takes each of us on our own amazing journeys full of more joy than = we could ever have imagined and times of pain that remind us to hold on = to those who mean the World to us. As I write this, I can't help but = feel truly blessed to be a part of such a phenomenal group of people. As = Bee Gee fans, we pull together, we follow Mo's lead and remind each = other of what's important. Only a group as genuine and benevolent as the = Bee Gees could draw together a fan base who displays these same = qualities when it really counts. At 23, I have been a fan for my entire = life (Thanks Mom!). It is a rare and priceless gift when we find someone = who inspires, enlightens, and grounds us... all while leaving us in awe = of their talent. For me, Mo is that voice in the back of my head = reminding me that setbacks are not failures, weakness is to be overcome, = and perhaps most importantly... that no dream is too big.=20 If angels walk among us, and I believe that they do, then we were given = a gift in Maurice. The brothers have always allowed us to see them = beyond the music. We have always been given the opportunity to know who = they are as people. When I think of Mo, I see a smile on his face. I see = him laughing. I see him living every day of his life bigger and better = than the day before. Losing him has shocked and devastated the people = who loved him. A piece of our heart feels empty. For me, it helps to = know that Mo wouldn't want us to feel that void. Of all the things Mo = left us... a joy of life is perhaps the most prominent. I'd be lying if = I said I haven't cried. Sometimes, life takes a direction that seems = unbearable... unbelievable. The pain leaves you numb... refusing to = feel. It is at times like these that we have to take yet another lead = from Mo and allow ourselves to lean on each other.=20 Taryn Dreher ------=_NextPart_000_0035_01C2BC20.812BC560-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:08:56 -0800 From: "Full Spectrum Records" Subject: AMA This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C2BB58.BF43E850 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't think it was the forum for a Maurice tribute. I didn't watch it = all, but if they didn't do anything for George Harrison, who been gone = long enough to properly prepare something, then it wouldn't surprise = that they didn't for Maurice. No big deal, really. Don't know if Maurice = would give two hoots, either, for being associated with that lot. I = don't need anyone else to validate how I feel about Maurice, nor does it = lesson his influence. Lots of people up there probably are half broke, = just like TLC went broke. But they get a slap on the back and a hunk of = clear plastic. Bee Gees get their awards in the mail every day in the = form of MONEY. Brian ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C2BB58.BF43E850-- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:23:41 +0000 From: "Janel Clayton" Subject: Bee Gee Chat Room Ramblings It's about 140 Tuesday morning, and lasting sleep is hard to come by. When I was younger, my parents would always be fighting. To put myself to sleep, I would tell myself made-up stories about whomever I liked at the time. ( seeing the Bee Gees in concert, meeting them, etc ). Far more recently, when my husband and dog are snoring too loud, I do the same. It is so hard thinking of Maurice as dead ... I still think of him as this outgoing, lively character, musically gifted genius who was one-third of the most talented musical trio in music history. When I try to picture him on a respirator, silent, motionless, just holding on until Robin can get there and then Barry and Robin standing helplessly by as he died ... that is way too hard to picture. Call me crazy, but the funeral scene and the subsequent songs ( The Long and Winding Road, A Year in the Life ) from the Sargeant Pepper's movie comes to mind. Why can't Billy Preston ( I think that's who it was ) zap Maurice back to life like he did Strawberry? Maurice's death didn't have to be this way ... I thought he would be around for years to come ... and now that his death could have been avoided ... I don't even want to think about that yet. I am somewhat consoled in knowing Maurice's family was there with him at the end, whereas the last memories of Andy for most of them are awful. And inasmuch as I love Barry and Robin for wanting to go on, I can't imagine making anyone -- either onstage or in the audience -- making it through the concert or listening to a new album without breaking down. If you've been blessed to see them in concert either on tape or in person, and know Maurice's musical ( and often times comical ) contributions to the event ... you know what I mean. I keep reading the accounts of how many of you met Maurice. That's one of the reasons I love him and his brothers so. Unlike most stars of today, they have never forgotten where they came from. I can see Robin and Barry weighing the pros and cons of doing the BBC interview, with one of them finally saying something along the lines of "we have to do it, we have to show our fans how we are doing." I know I said in an earlier posting my husband ( who has also been great through this whole thing ) and I were planning a trip to Miami. Last October, he was going to Orlando for training. He asked me to come, and I said no, thinking at the end of a long day of training, he wouldn't want to do the whole Disney World thing. Next day, he came home and said, "didn't you say you found the home addresses for the brothers on a website?" He also was like "You have the address for Maurice's Paintball Shop and Middle Ear Studios in Miami, why don't you put them in a website that gives directions along with the address for our hotel and go down there and find them?" Silly me, I still said no. At the time, I didn't think it was a big deal ... I figured there would be plenty of time. Now I have to live with that regret. Now mind you, I am not at all trying to compare this pain to what the Gibb family is going through. I just really, really hate myself now for not going down there. Yesterday morning a friend of mine called around 820 or so. I know at one time it was hard ( heck, it probably still is ) hard for her to talk about things like those that happened to Maurice. I told her then that I was grateful she called ... I don't normally have to work until 10AM, and if I speed, I can make it to work in 20 minutes. I told her that if she didn't call, I probably would have hit snooze until 930, thrown on some clothes, thrown my hair up, and raced against the clock to make it in to work on time. I thanked her as I hung up, and she made some comment about how that's what friends are for and I said, "yeah, whatever," and I realize now that was mean ... it has taken this tragedy for me to realize a lot of things. Thanks for letting me ramble. It's helped a lot. Janel "And this feeling, knowing you've blessed me forever. And believe me, I have been touched by your love." From the Bee Gees' song "Charade" _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 23:54:39 -0800 From: "Full Spectrum Records" Subject: Re: Bee Gee Chat Room Ramblings I know how you feel about missing an opportunity forever. I was living in South Dakota in 1977 when Elvis came to Rapid City for a concert. I wanted to go quite badly, and in fact was remodeling a home for the mentally retarded, and THEY ended up going in a large van. I didn't go (was 320 miles away), decided I would catch him "next time". A couple months later I sat stunned when the special report came on TV that he was dead. I still regret missing that concert, and remember how envious I was of the retarded folks that went. When I got the invite to the SNF Musical premiere, I decided I couldn't let that happen again, and got the plane tickets despite high cost, as it was only about a week away. I'm so glad I did. I never got to a concert live (should have went to Wango Tango at least, about 380 miles away), I figured I'd go when they put on a GIANT concert. But I do like concerts on DVD almost as much, and meeting them was more than enough. If I had the choice of one or the other, I'm glad it was meeting them. I feel bad for the family, but not for Maurice. His problems (present & future) are over, and he got out with relatively little suffering at the end compared to many. Our problems, for now, continue. But there is a time to finish mourning and move on. It comes at different points for different people, but mourning must sometime end or life is less good. Barry & Robin's BBC interview helped me, though today was pretty good for me even before I saw it. I feel quite okay now, at peace with it all. I was sure the determination of Barry & Robin would let them go on, and they quickly confirmed it. So many were talking like it was over for the Bee Gees EVEN BEFORE Maurice fell ill. I'm not flaming anyone, perhaps I just have a similar personality as them, but I never thought there was a snowball's chance in you-know-where that they were through. I hope everyone on this list reaches peace about it quickly. Our day is coming too, so we must make the most of them, and not be too consumed with "living our life in somebody else's dream". Peace to you all. Brian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janel Clayton" To: "words List Member" Cc: Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:23 PM Subject: Bee Gee Chat Room Ramblings > It's about 140 Tuesday morning, and lasting sleep is hard to come by. > > When I was younger, my parents would always be fighting. To put myself to > sleep, I would tell myself made-up stories about whomever I liked at the > time. ( seeing the Bee Gees in concert, meeting them, etc ). Far more > recently, when my husband and dog are snoring too loud, I do the same. It > is so hard thinking of Maurice as dead ... I still think of him as this > outgoing, lively character, musically gifted genius who was one-third of the > most talented musical trio in music history. > > When I try to picture him on a respirator, silent, motionless, just holding > on until Robin can get there and then Barry and Robin standing helplessly by > as he died ... that is way too hard to picture. Call me crazy, but the > funeral scene and the subsequent songs ( The Long and Winding Road, A Year > in the Life ) from the Sargeant Pepper's movie comes to mind. Why can't > Billy Preston ( I think that's who it was ) zap Maurice back to life like he > did Strawberry? > > Maurice's death didn't have to be this way ... I thought he would be around > for years to come ... and now that his death could have been avoided ... I > don't even want to think about that yet. I am somewhat consoled in knowing > Maurice's family was there with him at the end, whereas the last memories of > Andy for most of them are awful. > > And inasmuch as I love Barry and Robin for wanting to go on, I can't imagine > making anyone -- either onstage or in the audience -- making it through the > concert or listening to a new album without breaking down. If you've been > blessed to see them in concert either on tape or in person, and know > Maurice's musical ( and often times comical ) contributions to the event ... > you know what I mean. > > I keep reading the accounts of how many of you met Maurice. That's one of > the reasons I love him and his brothers so. Unlike most stars of today, > they have never forgotten where they came from. I can see Robin and Barry > weighing the pros and cons of doing the BBC interview, with one of them > finally saying something along the lines of "we have to do it, we have to > show our fans how we are doing." > > I know I said in an earlier posting my husband ( who has also been great > through this whole thing ) and I were planning a trip to Miami. Last > October, he was going to Orlando for training. He asked me to come, and I > said no, thinking at the end of a long day of training, he wouldn't want to > do the whole Disney World thing. > > Next day, he came home and said, "didn't you say you found the home > addresses for the brothers on a website?" He also was like "You have the > address for Maurice's Paintball Shop and Middle Ear Studios in Miami, why > don't you put them in a website that gives directions along with the address > for our hotel and go down there and find them?" > > Silly me, I still said no. At the time, I didn't think it was a big deal > ... I figured there would be plenty of time. Now I have to live with that > regret. Now mind you, I am not at all trying to compare this pain to what > the Gibb family is going through. I just really, really hate myself now for > not going down there. > > Yesterday morning a friend of mine called around 820 or so. I know at one > time it was hard ( heck, it probably still is ) hard for her to talk about > things like those that happened to Maurice. > > I told her then that I was grateful she called ... I don't normally have to > work until 10AM, and if I speed, I can make it to work in 20 minutes. I > told her that if she didn't call, I probably would have hit snooze until > 930, thrown on some clothes, thrown my hair up, and raced against the clock > to make it in to work on time. I thanked her as I hung up, and she made > some comment about how that's what friends are for and I said, "yeah, > whatever," and I realize now that was mean ... it has taken this tragedy for > me to realize a lot of things. > > Thanks for letting me ramble. It's helped a lot. > Janel > > "And this feeling, knowing you've blessed me forever. > And believe me, I have been touched by your love." > From the Bee Gees' song "Charade" > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2003 03:05:36 -0600 (CST) From: BeeGeezy@webtv.net (Keppel) Subject: mirror.co.uk THEY HAD 5 HITS IN CHART AND MO SAID: NOT BAD, EH? By David English, Friend, Bee Gees Author And RCO Record Company President '73-'80 =A0 "MAURICE Gibb was not only one of my closest friends, over 30 years he became like a brother to me. I last saw him at the wedding of Barry Gibb's two sons on Miami Beach before Christmas. He was in great spirits, larking around, having fun and enjoying life. He was slim and tanned and looked great which makes the details of his death even harder to take in. I've been in constant touch with his family since he was taken into hospital and I've been shocked to learn just how ill Maurice was. The family are drained at the finality and suddenness of it all. Barry and Robin's mother, Barbara, is with them. The hospital is down the road from their homes and is where their children were born. Now they're at Barry's house trying to come to terms with it all. Barry was asleep when I called yesterday. His wife Linda said he was devastated. He can't believe it has happened. I will always remember Maurice, or Mo as I called him, for his sense of humour and his ability to mimic other people's voices. He was zany, like Ringo was with the Beatles, witty and a bit of a court jester. One of my favourite memories is driving over Sunny Isles Bridge in Miami in 1975 with the Bee Gees after spending a day in the recording studio. They heard the rhythm of the wheels on the road, looked at each other and realised it was a great groove. We drove back to the studio and came up with Jive Talking, just like that. When they were in the studio, they were like three pieces of a jigsaw because they fitted together so well. You would have Barry and Robin coming up with the words and Maurice with his keyboard or guitar developing a melody as the man in the middle. After Saturday Night Fever came out, I remember walking around Times Square in New York with Maurice. We saw a neon board which showed five of their singles in the Top 10. He smiled and said: "Not bad, eh?" Talk about understatement. One of the funniest times we had was in the 70s at the Intercontinental Hotel in Paris. I was looking over the balcony of our room and for some reason decided to circle along a ledge. One by one, Barry, Maurice and Robin followed. When we came to the next suite, we looked in and saw a couple making love. The woman looked up and, with an expression of total disbelief, saw a madman followed by three Bee Gees inch past, 100ft above Paris. We saw her the next day on the plane back to London. Maurice told her how nice it was to see her with her clothes on. I last spoke to him on the phone two weeks ago. He was fine and talking about how he had just been paintballing. The fact that he was so active makes his death all the harder to come to terms with. My thoughts are with his family. His wife, Yvonne, is devastated. It must also be very hard on his children, Samantha and Adam, who were working on an album with him just before he died. The Bee Gees drew their strength from being a family. I'm sure they will use that strength to get them through the days ahead. But things will never be the same again." ~Nanci~ "Keppel" ------------------------------ End words@brothersgibb.com Digest [01/14/2003 06:01] ----------------------------------------------------