(#2007-3123) - Topics this issue: 1) Digest (04/14/2007 09:01) (#2007-3122), 2) Andy's Talent, 3) Barry's house, 4) Andy's talent, 5) More on the probably cause of the fire and other interesting comments, ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 02:04:47 +1200 From: "Darrin Mitchell" Subject: Re: Digest (04/14/2007 09:01) (#2007-3122) Andrew...I'm curious as to which ones you are missing... Darrin Mitchell > Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 09:28:54 +0100 > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Andrew_M=F4n_Hughes?= > Subject: Re: Bee Gees Complete Volume 1: Songbook > Yes, I have one - it's my second copy actually - these books are not > particularly well bound and the slightest amount of bending would cause > the > glue to crack, susequently all the pages fell out my first copy! =8^S > > I have most of the individual album songbooks as well, although a certain > Mr > Gooch has one that I still need! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 11:19:55 -0400 From: Grant Walters Subject: Re: Andy's Talent Andy "ordinary"? Well, I suppose it depends on your definition of what that is. He could sing...granted, it wasn't an incredibly distinct or powerful voice compared to that of a Barry or Robin, but Andy did have a knack for sensitivity. His brothers can sing the hell out of any song, but there was something to be said for Andy's feathery, caramel-drizzle vocal on songs like "(Our Love) Don't Throw It All Away", or "I Can't Help It". It worked. I will fully acknowledge that the Bee Gees influence and his looks were great contributors to his appeal, certainly, but I do think he had enough chops to deliver a song and have it make an impact. Another facet of his talent was his stage presence and relationship with his audience. Andy had that nailed down. Even when you watch some of those club performances he did in the mid-80s that were not so great vocally, he still knew how to work his audience. He was a believable performer that always looked like he was having a great time and really loved what he was doing. I think the Bee Gees lacked that connectivity and enthusiasm at times in their live performances, regardless of how fantastic they sounded. We also know he could write his own material. He never wrote anything on par with "To Love Somebody" or "How Deep Is Your Love", but thinking back to a song like "Words and Music" that he cranked out when he was 16, I think he did alright. Sadly, like much of Andy's career, it's a game of "what if...what if...". Given the support and space to actually write his own songs, he could have done well. Or not. But he did pen some decent compositions, which is more than I could say for most of our younger "talent" in the industry at present. I don't believe that the comparisons drawn between Andy and his brothers have been completely fair (although they're inevitable). The Bee Gees were mostly always given the opportunity to be their own artists, write their own music, and determine their own direction creatively. And by the time Andy was old enough to even think of a career in music, the Bee Gees had twenty years of experience and a good body of work. I guess for Andy it might have been a choice of "take this recording contract and work with your brothers and be successful" or "keep doing your own thing, struggle, and possibly never get any recognition". When you're 17 or 18, the allure of success might make that decision for you pretty easily. Maybe if he had struggled a bit more and hadn't jumped onto the RSO bandwagon, everything might have turned out differently. Grant ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:34:35 -0700 From: "timelessbeegees" Subject: Re: Barry's house Maggie, I do agree with what you said. My sarcasm however, was fueled by my perception that many of the recent posts have focused on the opinion that because Barry has more that one house and an abundance of money, he is absent of emotional attachment or at least should be. He is human. He deserves that respect during such a tragic event. There are many global tragedies occurring daily. Because someone has money, does that castrate their emotions? Money can't solve all our problems. I didn't find it appropriate to compare world tragic events against the burning of the Cash/Gibb home. It seemed like some sort of futile contest. My heart goes out to anyone going through terrible life events. The Cash/Gibb families must be absolutely devastated. My heart goes out to them. Judy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maggie Bleksley" To: "words List Member" Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 1:10 AM Subject: [words] Barry's house > Judy, > Sal was simply putting an event which, in itself is a tragedy, into > perspective on a world-wide scale. I have seen far more OT posts than > this. > There is nothing wrong with you or anybody else stating their opinion, but > when we do, we need to prepared for a certain amount of disagreement from > others. IMO you both have valid points, but I don't think sarcasm is > necessary just because somebody has a different point of view from yours. > > Maggie > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "timelessbeegees" > To: "words List Member" > Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2007 3:58 AM > Subject: [words] Barry's house > > >> Oh, I am sorry Sal. I thought we were discussing the event of the > Cash/Gibb >> home burning, not catastrophes of the world. If you want to get into a >> discussion about those issues, please give me advance warning and I will >> elaborate on that topic. I really must have misunderstood the previous >> posts. Please accept my apology. I really thought this was a site for > Gibb >> relates issues, not world events. >> >> Judy >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: "words List Member" >> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 4:28 PM >> Subject: [words] Barry's house >> >> >> > >> > >> > In a message dated 4/13/2007 3:42:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >> > timelessbeegees@comcast.net writes: >> > >> >>Well, it is too bad it keeps coming back down to money for some. A > loss >> >>is >> >>a loss. Money plays no part (or very little) in the emotional trauma. >> >>So >> >>it can be rebuild, then what? Another house on the lake... Look > beyond >> > the >> >>material aspects. This was much more than a monetary investment to >> >>the >> > Cash >> >>family as well as the Gibb family. >> > >> >>Judy >> >>a.k.a.Timelessbeegees >> > >> > There are still thousands dispossesed of their homes in New Orleans, > not >> > to >> > mention all of the homeless in general. A loss is a loss, but some >> > have >> > more >> > dire consequences than others. >> > >> > Sal >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ************************************** See what's free at >> > http://www.aol.com. >> > >> > >> > >> > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) >> > http://www.brothersgibb.com >> > >> > To change any of your list options, >> > please go to website listed above. >> >> >> >> >> "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) >> http://www.brothersgibb.com >> >> To change any of your list options, >> please go to website listed above. >> >> > > > > > "Words & Music", Fans Of The Brothers Gibb ( Bee Gees ) > http://www.brothersgibb.com > > To change any of your list options, > please go to website listed above. > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 12:29:46 -0400 From: "Bill Busch" Subject: Andy's talent I tend to agree with Andy having a good voice. The true telling of this is hearing a personal sing live. As we well know tricks can be used in the studio to make even the worst singers sound at least acceptable. The only way I've ever heard Andy sing was on record. To me, he could sing, however, it seems this may not be the consensus. If a bunch of walked out of a theater and said the guy couldn't sing ..... well .. damn them for possibly blowing my whole illusion apart lol But, maybe they were right since they had the up close and personal experience of hearing him without all the techno tricks? Bill > -----Original Message----- > Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:26:11 +0100 > From: "melissagibson" > Subject: Re: Andy's talent > > I would have to disagree there. I haven't heard many of his songs, but > I > think he had a good voice. > > I think some people have said before that there were other things that > Andy > would have liked to do, instead of making records. I sometimes wonder > if he > felt he was expected to go into the music industry, or if he felt he > had to? > I'm sure he did want to as well, but didn't his former wife Kim once > say > that he would rather have been a pilot? > > Michelle -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 269.4.0/760 - Release Date: 4/13/2007 8:04 PM ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2007 13:37:31 EDT From: Mnbeegeesfan@aol.com Subject: More on the probably cause of the fire and other interesting comments More on the cause of the fire....and other interesting links and "comments"...check out this link from The Tenneseean.com ....More links to other stories on the side. 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